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From: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vince@deater.net,
	eranian@google.com, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v0 3/5] perf: Introduce instruction trace filtering
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 17:48:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87si39aswc.fsf@ashishki-desk.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151211153354.GY6356@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> writes:

> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 05:27:22PM +0200, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
>> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> writes:
>> 
>> > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 03:36:36PM +0200, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
>> >> +static int perf_event_itrace_filters_setup(struct perf_event *event)
>> >> +{
>> >> +	int ret;
>> >> +
>> >> +	/*
>> >> +	 * We can't use event_function_call() here, because that would
>> >> +	 * require ctx::mutex, but one of our callers is called with
>> >> +	 * mm::mmap_sem down, which would cause an inversion, see bullet
>> >> +	 * (2) in put_event().
>> >> +	 */
>> >> +	do {
>> >> +		if (READ_ONCE(event->state) != PERF_EVENT_STATE_ACTIVE) {
>> >> +			ret = event->pmu->itrace_filter_setup(event);
>> >> +			break;
>> >
>> > So this is tricky, if its not active it can be any moment, there is
>> > nothing serializing against that.
>> 
>> Indeed. But we should be able to call pmu::itrace_filter_setup()
>> multiple times, so if after this we re-check that the event is still
>> inactive, we can return, otherwise proceed with the cross-call. Does
>> this make sense?
>
> Dunno, I worry :-)
>
> What if:
>
> 	if (READ_ONCE(event->state) != PERF_EVENT_STATE_ACTIVE) {
> 		// we were INACTIVE, but now the event gets scheduled in
> 		// on _another_ CPU
> 		event->pmu->itrace_filter_setup() := {
> 			if (event->state == PERF_EVENT_STATE_ACTIVE) {
> 				/* muck with hardware */
> 			}
> 		}
> 	}
>
> Here too I feel a strict validation vs programming split would make sense.
>
> We can always call the validation thing, we must not call the program
> thing !ACTIVE is a clear and simple rule.

Ah, but pmu::itrace_filter_setup() does not touch the hardware,
pmu::start() does. The former keeps an array of, say, MSR values ready
for programming in event::hw and the latter actually writes the MSRs. So
the above example should not be a problem.

So in a way validation and programming are split already. And PT, for
example, won't have it any other way, you can only program stuff into
the registers while tracing is disabled.

Regards,
--
Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-11 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-11 13:36 [PATCH v0 0/5] " Alexander Shishkin
2015-12-11 13:36 ` [PATCH v0 1/5] perf: Move set_filter() from behind EVENT_TRACING Alexander Shishkin
2015-12-11 13:36 ` [PATCH v0 2/5] perf: Extend perf_event_aux() to optionally iterate through more events Alexander Shishkin
2015-12-11 13:36 ` [PATCH v0 3/5] perf: Introduce instruction trace filtering Alexander Shishkin
2015-12-11 14:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-11 14:20     ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-12-11 14:23     ` Mark Rutland
2015-12-11 14:52       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-11 15:12         ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-12-11 14:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-11 15:14     ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-12-11 15:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-11 15:17     ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-12-11 15:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-11 16:06     ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-12-11 15:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-11 15:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-11 15:27     ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-12-11 15:33       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-11 15:48         ` Alexander Shishkin [this message]
2015-12-11 16:01           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-11 17:02             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-11 15:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-11 15:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-11 15:28   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-11 17:00     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-11 17:13       ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-12-11 22:39         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-11 16:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-11 17:15     ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-12-11 18:11   ` Mathieu Poirier
2015-12-11 22:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-11 13:36 ` [PATCH v0 4/5] perf/x86/intel/pt: IP filtering register/cpuid bits Alexander Shishkin
2015-12-11 13:36 ` [PATCH v0 5/5] perf/x86/intel/pt: Add support for instruction trace filtering in PT Alexander Shishkin
2015-12-11 18:06   ` Mathieu Poirier
2015-12-11 21:38 ` [PATCH v0 0/5] perf: Introduce instruction trace filtering Mathieu Poirier
2015-12-14  8:50   ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-12-15  0:25     ` Mathieu Poirier

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