From: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
To: Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alexey Gladkov <legion@kernel.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Ran Xiaokai <ran.xiaokai@zte.com.cn>,
Michal Koutn?? <mkoutny@suse.com>,
stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/8] ucounts: Fix and simplify RLIMIT_NPROC handling during setuid()+execve
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:43:54 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tud1s5r9.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ee45wkjq.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org> (Eric W. Biederman's message of "Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:10:49 -0600")
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com> writes:
> Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com> writes:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 08:13:19PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>> As of commit 2863643fb8b9 ("set_user: add capability check when
>>> rlimit(RLIMIT_NPROC) exceeds") setting the flag to see if execve
>>> should check RLIMIT_NPROC is buggy, as it tests the capabilites from
>>> before the credential change and not aftwards.
>>>
>>> As of commit 21d1c5e386bc ("Reimplement RLIMIT_NPROC on top of
>>> ucounts") examining the rlimit is buggy as cred->ucounts has not yet
>>> been properly set in the new credential.
>>>
>>> Make the code correct and more robust moving the test to see if
>>> execve() needs to test RLIMIT_NPROC into commit_creds, and defer all
>>> of the rest of the logic into execve() itself.
>>>
>>> As the flag only indicateds that RLIMIT_NPROC should be checked
>>> in execve rename it from PF_NPROC_EXCEEDED to PF_NPROC_CHECK.
>>>
>>> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
>>> Link: https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20220207121800.5079-2-mkoutny@suse.com
>>> Link: https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20220207121800.5079-3-mkoutny@suse.com
>>> Reported-by: Michal Koutn?? <mkoutny@suse.com>
>>> Fixes: 2863643fb8b9 ("set_user: add capability check when rlimit(RLIMIT_NPROC) exceeds")
>>> Fixes: 21d1c5e386bc ("Reimplement RLIMIT_NPROC on top of ucounts")
>>> Signed-off-by: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
>>
>> On one hand, this looks good.
>>
>> On the other, you asked about the Apache httpd suexec scenario in the
>> other thread, and here's what this means for it (per my code review):
>>
>> In that scenario, we have two execve(): first from httpd to suexec, then
>> from suexec to the CGI script. Previously, the limit check only
>> occurred on the setuid() call by suexec, and its effect was deferred
>> until execve() of the script. Now wouldn't it occur on both execve()
>> calls, because commit_creds() is also called on execve() (such as in
>> case the program is SUID, which suexec actually is)?
>
> Yes. Moving the check into commit_creds means that the exec after a
> suid exec will perform an RLIMIT_NPROC check and could possibly fail. I
> would call that a bug. Anything happening in execve should be checked
> and handled in execve as execve can fail.
>
> It also points out that our permission checks for increasing
> RLIMIT_NPROC are highly inconsistent.
>
> One set of permissions in fork().
> Another set of permissions in set*id() and delayed until execve.
> No permission checks for the uid change in execve.
>
> Every time I look into the previous behavior of RLIMIT_NPROC I seem
> to find issues. Currently I am planning a posting to linux-api
> so sorting out what when RLIMIT_NPROC should be enforced and how
> RLIMIT_NPROC gets accounted receives review. I am also planning a
> feature branch to deal with the historical goofiness.
>
> I really like how cleanly this patch seems to be. Unfortunately it is
> wrong.
Hmm. Maybe not as wrong as I thought. An suid execve does not change
the real user.
Still a bit wrong from a conservative change point of view because the
user namespace can change in setns and CLONE_NEWUSER which will change
the accounting now. Which with the ucount rlimit stuff changes where
things should be accounted.
I am playing with the idea of changing accounting aka (cred->ucounts &
cred->user) to only change in fork (aka clone without CLONE_THREAD) and
exec. I think that would make maintenance and cleaning all of this up
easier.
That would also remove serious complications from RLIMIT_SIGPENDING as
well.
I thought SIGPENDING was only a multi-threaded process issue but from
one signal to the next the set*id() family functions can be called.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-14 17:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-07 12:17 [RFC PATCH 0/6] RLIMIT_NPROC in ucounts fixups Michal Koutný
2022-02-07 12:17 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] set_user: Perform RLIMIT_NPROC capability check against new user credentials Michal Koutný
2022-02-10 1:14 ` Solar Designer
2022-02-10 1:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11 20:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-12 22:14 ` Solar Designer
2022-02-15 11:55 ` Michal Koutný
2022-02-07 12:17 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] set*uid: Check RLIMIT_PROC against new credentials Michal Koutný
2022-02-07 12:17 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] cred: Count tasks by their real uid into RLIMIT_NPROC Michal Koutný
2022-02-07 12:17 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] ucounts: Allow root to override RLIMIT_NPROC Michal Koutný
2022-02-10 0:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-07 12:17 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] selftests: Challenge RLIMIT_NPROC in user namespaces Michal Koutný
2022-02-10 1:22 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-15 9:45 ` Michal Koutný
2022-02-07 12:18 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] selftests: Test RLIMIT_NPROC in clone-created " Michal Koutný
2022-02-10 1:25 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-15 9:34 ` Michal Koutný
2022-02-08 13:54 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] RLIMIT_NPROC in ucounts fixups Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11 2:01 ` [PATCH 0/8] ucounts: RLIMIT_NPROC fixes Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11 2:13 ` [PATCH 1/8] ucounts: Fix RLIMIT_NPROC regression Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-14 18:37 ` Michal Koutný
2022-02-16 15:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11 2:13 ` [PATCH 2/8] ucounts: Fix set_cred_ucounts Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-15 11:10 ` Michal Koutný
2022-02-11 2:13 ` [PATCH 3/8] ucounts: Fix and simplify RLIMIT_NPROC handling during setuid()+execve Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-12 23:17 ` Solar Designer
2022-02-14 15:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-14 17:43 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2022-02-15 10:25 ` Michal Koutný
2022-02-16 15:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11 2:13 ` [PATCH 4/8] ucounts: Only except the root user in init_user_ns from RLIMIT_NPROC Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-15 10:54 ` Michal Koutný
2022-02-16 15:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11 2:13 ` [PATCH 5/8] ucounts: Handle wrapping in is_ucounts_overlimit Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-12 22:36 ` Solar Designer
2022-02-14 15:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-14 15:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-15 11:25 ` Michal Koutný
2022-02-14 17:16 ` David Laight
2022-02-11 2:13 ` [PATCH 6/8] ucounts: Handle inc_rlimit_ucounts wrapping in fork Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11 11:34 ` Alexey Gladkov
2022-02-11 17:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11 18:32 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-11 18:40 ` Alexey Gladkov
2022-02-11 19:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11 2:13 ` [PATCH 7/8] rlimit: For RLIMIT_NPROC test the child not the parent for capabilites Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11 2:13 ` [PATCH 8/8] ucounts: Use the same code to enforce RLIMIT_NPROC in fork and exec Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11 18:22 ` [PATCH 0/8] ucounts: RLIMIT_NPROC fixes Shuah Khan
2022-02-11 19:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-15 11:37 ` Michal Koutný
2022-02-16 15:56 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] " Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-16 15:58 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] rlimit: Fix RLIMIT_NPROC enforcement failure caused by capability calls in set_user Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-16 17:42 ` Solar Designer
2022-02-16 15:58 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] ucounts: Enforce RLIMIT_NPROC not RLIMIT_NPROC+1 Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-16 15:58 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] ucounts: Base set_cred_ucounts changes on the real user Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-16 15:58 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] ucounts: Move RLIMIT_NPROC handling after set_user Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-16 15:58 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] ucounts: Handle wrapping in is_ucounts_overlimit Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-16 17:28 ` Shuah Khan
2022-02-18 15:34 ` [GIT PULL] ucounts: RLIMIT_NPROC fixes for v5.17 Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-20 19:05 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-03-03 0:12 ` [GIT PULL] ucounts: Regression fix " Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-03 0:30 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-02-12 15:32 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] RLIMIT_NPROC in ucounts fixups Etienne Dechamps
2022-02-15 10:11 ` Michal Koutný
2022-02-23 0:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-23 18:00 ` How should rlimits, suid exec, and capabilities interact? Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-23 19:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-02-23 21:28 ` Willy Tarreau
2022-02-23 19:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-02-24 1:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-24 1:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-02-24 2:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-24 15:41 ` [PATCH] ucounts: Fix systemd LimigtNPROC with private users regression Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-24 16:28 ` Kees Cook
2022-02-24 18:53 ` Michal Koutný
2022-02-25 0:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-24 3:00 ` How should rlimits, suid exec, and capabilities interact? David Laight
2022-02-24 1:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
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