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From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
To: Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>, Mike Marion <mmarion@qualcomm.com>
Cc: autofs mailing list <autofs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] autofs - fix AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT not being honored
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 13:48:40 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tvxdx0jb.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1be75afb-8702-d60c-5ecb-10ddd2edc062@themaw.net>

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On Wed, Nov 29 2017, Ian Kent wrote:

> On 29/11/17 10:13, Mike Marion wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 12:17:27PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
>> 
>>> How big do people see /proc/self/mount* getting?  What size reads
>>> does 'strace' show the various programs using to read it?
>> 
>> We already have line counts into 5 figures.  This wasn't an issue until 
>> the change of /etc/mtab to a link.  The large count is due to our large
>> direct automount maps.
>> 

So .... 90,000 lines with a length of may 120 chars or about 10Meg.
Presumably these machines would have so many gigabytes of RAM that
caching a 10M mountinfo file would go unnoticed?

Reading that in 128K chunks without generating bits on the fly will help
a lot I suspect.

We could probably ensure proper alignment by searching backwards for
'\n' when deciding how much to return for a read.

>
> And, admittedly, the testing I was doing was with 15k+ size maps.
>
> Of course it's necessary to have this number of mounts to see serious
> problems which is easiest to do with large direct mount maps.
>
> The thing that's different now is that before applications started
> using /proc directly for mount table information using mount(2)
> instead of mount(8) was enough to prevent the mount entries from
> being added to the table seen by applications.

I wonder who would notice if untriggered direct mounts quietly disappeared from
/proc/mounts...  I suspect systemd would, but there is a good chance it
would fail-safe: assume that the mount worked.
Alternately we could introduce /proc/self/mountinfo2 which doesn't list
direct automounts and encourage problematic programs to use that where
available.

NeilBrown

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-29  2:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-10  4:18 [PATCH 1/3] autofs - make disc device user accessible Ian Kent
2017-05-10  4:18 ` [PATCH 2/3] autofs - make dev ioctl version and ismountpoint " Ian Kent
2017-05-10  4:18 ` [PATCH 3/3] autofs - fix AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT not being honored Ian Kent
2017-05-12 12:49   ` Colin Walters
2017-11-21  1:53   ` NeilBrown
2017-11-22  4:28     ` Ian Kent
2017-11-23  0:36       ` Ian Kent
2017-11-23  2:21         ` NeilBrown
2017-11-23  2:46           ` Ian Kent
2017-11-23  3:04             ` Ian Kent
2017-11-23  4:49             ` NeilBrown
2017-11-23  6:34               ` Ian Kent
2017-11-27 16:01         ` Mike Marion
2017-11-27 23:43           ` Ian Kent
2017-11-28  0:29             ` Mike Marion
2017-11-29  1:17               ` NeilBrown
2017-11-29  2:13                 ` Mike Marion
2017-11-29  2:28                   ` Ian Kent
2017-11-29  2:48                     ` NeilBrown [this message]
2017-11-29  3:14                       ` Ian Kent
2017-11-29  2:56                 ` Ian Kent
2017-11-29  3:45                   ` NeilBrown
2017-11-29  6:00                     ` Ian Kent
2017-11-29  7:39                       ` NeilBrown
2017-11-30  0:00                         ` Ian Kent
2017-11-29 16:51                       ` Mike Marion
2017-11-23  0:47       ` NeilBrown
2017-11-23  1:43         ` Ian Kent
2017-11-23  2:26           ` Ian Kent
2017-11-23  3:04           ` NeilBrown
2017-11-23  3:41             ` Ian Kent

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