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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>
Cc: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-api\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] perf: Userspace event
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 15:23:02 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tx3uj3y1.fsf@sejong.aot.lge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1411649105.4768.48.camel@hornet> (Pawel Moll's message of "Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:45:05 +0100")

On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:45:05 +0100, Pawel Moll wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-09-24 at 07:07 +0100, Namhyung Kim wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 18:03:07 +0100, Pawel Moll wrote:
>> > This patch adds a new PERF_COUNT_SW_UEVENT software event
>> > and a related PERF_SAMPLE_UEVENT sample. User can now
>> > write to the the perf file descriptor, injecting such
>> > event in the perf buffer.
>> 
>> It seems the PERF_SAMPLE_UEVENT sample can be injected to any event.  So
>> why the PERF_COUNT_SW_UEVENT is needed?  At least one can use the
>> SW_DUMMY event for that purpose.
>
> You're right. I needed a different SW type in one of my early
> prototypes, but it's not the case any more. Consider it gone.

Okay.


>
>> Also I think it'd be better to be a record type (PERF_RECORD_XXX)
>> instead of a sample flag (PERF_SAMPLE_XXX).  In perf tools, we already
>> use perf_user_event_type for synthesized userspace events.  This way it
>> can avoid unnecessary sample processing for userspace events.
>
> Fine with me. If no one objects, I'm more than happy to use
> PERF_RECORD_UEVENT = 11 for it.
>
>> For contents, I prefer to give complete control to users - kernel
>> doesn't need to care about it other than its size.  If one just wants to
>> use strings only, she can write them directly.  If others want to mix
>> different types of data, they might need to define a data format for
>> their use.
>
> Are you saying to drop even the "type 0 means zero-terminated string"
> definition, even if everything else is up to the user? I quite like that
> idea, especially combined with write()ing to the perf_fd (it is very
> much like trace_marker then, which is beautiful in its simplicity), but
> the feelings are not that strong to fight a war over it.

:)


Thanks,
Namhyung

      reply	other threads:[~2014-09-26  6:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-23 17:03 [PATCH v2 0/2] perf: User/kernel time correlation and event generation Pawel Moll
2014-09-23 17:03 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] perf: Add sampling of the raw monotonic clock Pawel Moll
2014-09-24  5:41   ` Namhyung Kim
2014-09-25 10:49     ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-26  6:16       ` Namhyung Kim
2014-09-26 10:58         ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-26 14:38           ` Namhyung Kim
2014-09-26 15:05             ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-26 19:25               ` David Ahern
2014-09-29 14:47                 ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-23 17:03 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] perf: Userspace event Pawel Moll
2014-09-24  6:07   ` Namhyung Kim
2014-09-24  7:20     ` Ingo Molnar
2014-09-26  6:21       ` Namhyung Kim
2014-09-26 10:59         ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-26 11:24           ` Ingo Molnar
2014-09-25 12:45     ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-26  6:23       ` Namhyung Kim [this message]

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