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From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: James Bottomley <jbottomley@odin.com>
Cc: "ulf.hansson\@linaro.org" <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	"linux\@rasmusvillemoes.dk" <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	"andriy.shevchenko\@linux.intel.com" 
	<andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	"keescook\@chromium.org" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"akpm\@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] lib/string_helpers: change blk_size to u32 for string_get_size() interface
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2015 16:58:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y4egpf57.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1446250866.25009.54.camel@Odin.com> (James Bottomley's message of "Sat, 31 Oct 2015 00:21:07 +0000")

James Bottomley <jbottomley@odin.com> writes:

> On Fri, 2015-10-30 at 11:46 +0100, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
>> James Bottomley <jbottomley@odin.com> writes:
>> 
>> > On Thu, 2015-10-29 at 17:30 +0100, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
>> >> string_get_size() can't really handle huge block sizes, especially
>> >> blk_size > U32_MAX but string_get_size() interface states the opposite.
>> >> Change blk_size from u64 to u32 to reflect the reality.
>> >
>> > What is the actual evidence for this?  The calculation is designed to be
>> > a symmetric 128 bit multiply.  When I wrote and tested it, it worked
>> > fine for huge block sizes.
>> 
>> We have 'u32 remainder' and then we do:
>> 
>> exp = divisor[units] / (u32)blk_size;
>> ...
>> remainder = do_div(size, divisor[units]);
>> remainder *= blk_size;
>> 
>> I'm pretty sure it will overflow for some inputs.
>
> It shouldn't; the full code snippet does this:
>
>         	while (blk_size >= divisor[units]) {
>         		remainder = do_div(blk_size, divisor[units]);
>         		i++;
>         	}
>
>         	exp = divisor[units] / (u32)blk_size;
>
> So by the time it reaches the statement you complain about, blk_size is
> already less than or equal to the divisor (which is 1000 or 1024) so
> truncating to 32 bits is always correct.
>

I overlooked, sorry!

> I'm sort of getting the impression you don't quite understand the
> mathematics:  i is the logarithm to the base divisor[units].  We reduce
> both operands to exponents of the logarithm base (adding the two bases
> together in i), which means they are by definition in a range between
> zero and the base and then multiply the remaining exponents correcting
> the result for a base overflow (so the result is always a correct
> exponent and i is the logarithm to the base).  It's actually simply
> Napier's algorithm.
>
> The reason we're getting the up to 2.5% rounding errors you complain
> about is because at each logarithm until the last one, we throw away the
> remainder (it's legitimate because it's always 1000x smaller than the
> exponent), but in the case of a large remainder it provides a small
> correction to the final operation which we don't account for.  If you
> want to make a true correction, you save the penultimate residue in each
> case, multiply each by the *other* exponent add them together, divide by
> the base and increment the final result by the remainder.

My assumption was that we don't really need to support blk_sizes >
U32_MAX and we can simplify string_get_size() instead of adding
additional complexity. Apparently, the assumption was wrong.

>
> However, for 2.5% the physicist in me says the above is way overkill.
>

It is getting was over 2.5% if blk_size is not a power of 2. While it is
probably never the case for block subsystem the function is in lib and
pretends to be general-enough. I'll try to make proper correction and
let's see if it's worth the effort. 

Thanks,

> James
>
>> >
>> > James
>> >
>> >> Signed-off-by: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
>> >> ---
>> >>  include/linux/string_helpers.h | 2 +-
>> >>  lib/string_helpers.c           | 4 ++--
>> >>  2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>> >> 
>> >> diff --git a/include/linux/string_helpers.h b/include/linux/string_helpers.h
>> >> index dabe643..1223e80 100644
>> >> --- a/include/linux/string_helpers.h
>> >> +++ b/include/linux/string_helpers.h
>> >> @@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ enum string_size_units {
>> >>  	STRING_UNITS_2,		/* use binary powers of 2^10 */
>> >>  };
>> >>  
>> >> -void string_get_size(u64 size, u64 blk_size, enum string_size_units units,
>> >> +void string_get_size(u64 size, u32 blk_size, enum string_size_units units,
>> >>  		     char *buf, int len);
>> >>  
>> >>  #define UNESCAPE_SPACE		0x01
>> >> diff --git a/lib/string_helpers.c b/lib/string_helpers.c
>> >> index 5939f63..f6c27dc 100644
>> >> --- a/lib/string_helpers.c
>> >> +++ b/lib/string_helpers.c
>> >> @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
>> >>   * at least 9 bytes and will always be zero terminated.
>> >>   *
>> >>   */
>> >> -void string_get_size(u64 size, u64 blk_size, const enum string_size_units units,
>> >> +void string_get_size(u64 size, u32 blk_size, const enum string_size_units units,
>> >>  		     char *buf, int len)
>> >>  {
>> >>  	static const char *const units_10[] = {
>> >> @@ -58,7 +58,7 @@ void string_get_size(u64 size, u64 blk_size, const enum string_size_units units,
>> >>  		i++;
>> >>  	}
>> >>  
>> >> -	exp = divisor[units] / (u32)blk_size;
>> >> +	exp = divisor[units] / blk_size;
>> >>  	/*
>> >>  	 * size must be strictly greater than exp here to ensure that remainder
>> >>  	 * is greater than divisor[units] coming out of the if below.
>> 

-- 
  Vitaly

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-02 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-29 16:30 [PATCH v3 0/4] lib/string_helpers: fix precision issues and introduce tests Vitaly Kuznetsov
2015-10-29 16:30 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] lib/string_helpers: change blk_size to u32 for string_get_size() interface Vitaly Kuznetsov
2015-10-29 22:27   ` James Bottomley
2015-10-29 23:19     ` Rasmus Villemoes
2015-10-29 23:24       ` Rasmus Villemoes
2015-10-30  3:33       ` James Bottomley
2015-10-30 10:46     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2015-10-31  0:21       ` James Bottomley
2015-11-02 15:58         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
2015-11-03  3:40           ` James Bottomley
2015-11-03 13:13             ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2015-11-03 17:02               ` James Bottomley
2015-11-03 20:57                 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2015-11-03 21:19                   ` James Bottomley
2015-10-29 16:30 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] lib/string_helpers.c: protect string_get_size() against blk_size=0 Vitaly Kuznetsov
2015-10-29 21:24   ` Andy Shevchenko
2015-10-29 23:00   ` James Bottomley
2015-10-29 23:32     ` Andy Shevchenko
2015-10-30  3:34       ` James Bottomley
2015-10-30 10:41         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2015-10-31  0:07           ` James Bottomley
2015-10-29 16:30 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] lib/string_helpers.c: don't lose precision in string_get_size() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2015-10-29 21:22   ` Andy Shevchenko
2015-10-29 16:30 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] lib/test-string_helpers.c: add string_get_size() tests Vitaly Kuznetsov
2015-10-29 21:33   ` Andy Shevchenko

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