From: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>
To: Philippe De Muyter <phdm@macqel.be>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH vfat] allow retrieving entries with trailing dots
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:41:33 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y6hzni82.fsf@devron.myhome.or.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100311120214.GA23767@frolo.macqel> (Philippe De Muyter's message of "Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:02:14 +0100")
Philippe De Muyter <phdm@macqel.be> writes:
>> > This is unavoidable.
>
> We could perhaps reduce the disadvantage by moving the logic (test first
> with the trailing dots, and then without if needed) into fat_search_long
> instead of putting it in vfat_find as my patch proposal does. This way
> the name to find would only be compared once to unrelated entries,
> instead of possibly twice as my patch does.
>
> But therefore I need your help : fat_search_long isn't easy to read/modify.
>
> The logic could be modified as such :
> - if the searched name contains trailing dots, first compare
> the truncated part to the same length of the directory entry
> - if they are the same, test the length of the rest of the directory entry
> - if length_of_rest is 0, this could be the matching entry,
> but there could be a better one later; keep searching till the end.
> - if length_of_rest is not 0, compare the rest with the trailing dots
> - if rests are equal, we have found it; return
> - if rests are unequal, continue searching
>
>>
>> We would be able to introduce new mount option to do it if needed.
>
> A new mount option should be the last programming option. It is better to
> automatically do the right thing than to require the user to figure out
> he must add a mount option in /etc/fstab or whatever. Remember this is
> for hot-plug disks.
Sorry, but I'm not thinking this is primary one. So, requiring option
for it to avoid disadvantage of normal users, it sounds good.
>> This changed vfat_find(), so, this patch will change the behavior of all
>> callers more or less. And the behavior seems to be really strange, you
>> can remove "a.", but you can't create it?
>
> Yes, you can remove any existing file, but if you want to create a file,
> the name creation rules are kept unchanged. So, creating "a." will
> succeed, it will actually be called "a" on disk, but you can still refer
> to it as "a." : that will succeed. That's the strange part of the behavior
> but that part is already present for compatibility reasons nor you nor me
> can do anything about :(
>
>> The behavior sounds random, right?
>
> It's a compromise to avoid creating name entries that are not universally
> accepted, but to allow accessing existing files and directories.
>
> The mount option could be useful then to allow the creation of file and
> directory names with trailing dot, but consistency between getdents and
> stat/open must be automatic.
No, this breaks consistency. With this patch, unlink("a."), then
open("a.", O_CREAT) and write(), the result depend on existent
files. This patch is providing two files on one name.
Thanks.
--
OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-11 12:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-10 12:32 Philippe De Muyter
2010-03-10 14:44 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2010-03-10 16:14 ` Philippe De Muyter
2010-03-10 17:16 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2010-03-10 23:58 ` Philippe De Muyter
2010-03-11 9:26 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2010-03-11 12:02 ` Philippe De Muyter
2010-03-11 12:41 ` OGAWA Hirofumi [this message]
2010-03-13 11:31 ` Philippe De Muyter
2010-03-13 13:06 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2010-03-14 10:39 ` [PATCH vfat] IOMEGA network drive compatibility Philippe De Muyter
2010-03-14 11:17 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2010-03-14 14:13 ` Philippe De Muyter
2010-03-14 14:52 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-03-19 18:11 [PATCH] parport netmos 9845 & 9855 1P4S fixes Philippe De Muyter
2009-03-23 8:50 ` Philippe De Muyter
2009-03-23 14:00 ` Philippe De Muyter
2009-09-25 19:46 ` [PATCH RFC] vfat and Simon_&_Garfunkel-Wednesday_Morning,_3_a.m Philippe De Muyter
2009-09-29 10:05 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-09-29 10:25 ` Philippe De Muyter
2009-09-29 22:43 ` Philippe De Muyter
2009-09-30 11:02 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-09-30 22:19 ` Philippe De Muyter
2009-10-01 10:42 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2010-02-08 9:39 ` [PATCH vfat] allow retrieving entries with trailing dots Philippe De Muyter
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