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From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Huang Shijie <shijie@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org
Cc: patches@amperecomputing.com, cl@linux.com,
	Shubhang@os.amperecomputing.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vschneid@redhat.com,
	vineethr@linux.ibm.com, kprateek.nayak@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/2] sched: update the rq->avg_idle when a task is moved to an idle CPU
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2025 14:09:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <885de678-fd46-4a44-ac92-098bdb6b9cfe@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251203053056.4128-1-shijie@os.amperecomputing.com>

On 03.12.25 06:30, Huang Shijie wrote:
> In the newidle balance, the rq->idle_stamp may set to a non-zero value
> if it cannot pull any task.
> 
> In the wakeup, it will detect the rq->idle_stamp, and updates
> the rq->avg_idle, then ends the CPU idle status by setting rq->idle_stamp
> to zero.
> 
> Besides the wakeup, current code does not end the CPU idle status
> when a task is moved to the idle CPU, such as fork/clone, execve,
> or other cases.

Is there a case which is the most important one? (e.g. idle load balancing)?

I still can't see the reason why this code should be changed (was asked
in v4 already).

Do you have a workload on your machine which gives you better scores in
case you set 'rq->idle_stamp = 0' in all those cases?

What is is actual issue in the current code?

Does 'this_rq->avg_idle' get too big so you spend too much useless time
(since pulled_task == 0) in sched_balance_newidle() because the bailout
condition:

sched_balance_newidle()

  ...
  if (!get_rd_overloaded(this_rq->rd) ||
      this_rq->avg_idle < sd->max_newidle_lb_cost) {
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    ...
    goto out;

doesn't trigger anymore?

[...]

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-12-04 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-03  5:30 Huang Shijie
2025-12-03  5:30 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] sched/fair: set rq->idle_stamp at the end of the sched_balance_newidle Huang Shijie
2025-12-03  5:30 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] sched: update the rq->avg_idle when a task is moved to an idle CPU Huang Shijie
2025-12-04 13:09 ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2025-12-05  2:09   ` [PATCH v5 0/2] " Shijie Huang

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