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From: Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Haitao Huang <haitao.huang@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org, Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] x86/sgx: Add accounting for tracking overcommit
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 09:45:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <886a50c8e97b5d2ef5b7c004a63365d2aa480f33.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4996667d-938d-0833-f5a5-bf5ec82f69ea@intel.com>

On Tue, 2022-01-11 at 09:39 -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 1/11/22 08:33, Haitao Huang wrote:
> > On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:43:35 -0600, Dave Hansen <
> > dave.hansen@intel.com> 
> > wrote:
> > > On 1/11/22 06:20, Haitao Huang wrote:
> > > > If the system has a ton of RAM but limited EPC, I think it
> > > > makes 
> > > > sense to allow more EPC swapping, can we do min(0.5*RAM,
> > > > 2*EPC)?
> > > > I suppose if the system is used for heavy enclave load, user
> > > > would be 
> > > > willing to at least use half of RAM.
> > > 
> > > If I have 100GB of RAM and 100MB of EPC, can I really
> > > *meaningfully* 
> > > run 50GB of enclaves?  In that case, if everything was swapped
> > > out 
> > > evenly, I would only have a 499/500 chance that a given page
> > > reference 
> > > would fault.
> > 
> > The formula will cap swapping at 2*EPC so only 200MB swapped out. 
> > So 
> > the miss is at most 1/3.
> > The original hard coded cap 1.5*EPC may still consume too much RAM
> > if 
> > RAM<1.5*EPC.
> 
> Oh, sorry, I read that backwards.
> 
> Basing it on the amount of RAM is a bit nasty.  You might either
> really 
> overly restrict the amount of allowed EPC, or you have to handle
> hotplug.

My opinion is that we should keep the current algorithm for now as it
is pretty straightforward, and cgroups will eventually allow for more
control.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-14 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-07 18:16 [PATCH v2 0/2] x86/sgx: Limit EPC overcommit Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-01-07 18:16 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] x86/sgx: Add accounting for tracking overcommit Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-01-07 18:46   ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-07 19:16     ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-01-11 14:20       ` Haitao Huang
2022-01-11 15:43         ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-11 16:33           ` Haitao Huang
2022-01-11 17:39             ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-14 17:45               ` Kristen Carlson Accardi [this message]
2022-01-08 15:59   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-14 17:47     ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-01-07 18:16 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] x86/sgx: account backing pages Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-01-08 16:05   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-14 17:51     ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-01-14 17:55       ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-14 23:57         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-15  0:16           ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-15  0:56             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-14 23:52       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-14 23:55         ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-15  0:58           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-15 18:57 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] x86/sgx: Limit EPC overcommit Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-15 19:02   ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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