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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Linus Torvalds' <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: objtool clac/stac handling change..
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 09:32:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <88850c316ed14c7b8391cea05d875406@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjQJjZX3cgX6vLp6ntTiBG+a6md64J+e74SDntoTi+q4A@mail.gmail.com>

From: Linus Torvalds
> Sent: 10 July 2020 23:37
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 5:35 AM David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > So separate copy and checksum passes should easily exceed 4 bytes/clock,
> > but I suspect that doing them together never does.
> > (Unless the buffer is too big for the L1 cache.)
> 
> Its' the "touch the caches twice" that is the problem".
> 
> And it's not the "buffer is too big for L1", it's "the source, the
> destination and any incidentals are too big for L1" with the
> additional noise from replacement policies etc.

That's really what I meant.
L1D is actually (probably) only 32kB.
I guess that gives you 8k for the buffer.

It is a shame you can't use the AVX instructions in kernel.
(Although saving them probably costs more than the gain.)
Then you could use something based on:
10:	load ymm,src+idx   // 32 bytes
	store ymm,tgt+idx
	addq sum0,ymm   // eight 32bit adds
	rotate ymm,16   // Pretty sure there in an instruction for this!
	addq sum1,ymm
	add idx,32
	jnz 10b
It is then possibly to determine the correct result from sum0/sum1.
On very recent Intel cpu that might even run at 1 iteration/clock!
(Probably needs and unroll and explicit interleave.)
At one iteration every 2 clocks it matches the ADDX[OC] loop
but includes the write.

	David

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      reply	other threads:[~2020-07-13  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-01 18:22 Linus Torvalds
2020-07-01 18:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-01 19:35   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-01 20:36     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-01 20:51       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-07-01 21:02         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02  0:00           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-07-02  8:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-01 20:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02  0:47         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-02  2:30           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02  2:35             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02  3:08             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-01 18:41 ` Al Viro
2020-07-01 19:04   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-01 19:59     ` Al Viro
2020-07-01 20:25       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 13:34         ` Michael Ellerman
2020-07-02 14:01           ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 14:04             ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 15:13           ` Christophe Leroy
2020-07-02 20:13             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03  3:59               ` Michael Ellerman
2020-07-03  3:17             ` Michael Ellerman
2020-07-03  5:27               ` Christophe Leroy
2020-07-02 19:52           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 20:17             ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 20:32               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 20:59                 ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 21:55                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03  1:33                     ` Al Viro
2020-07-03  3:32                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03 21:02                       ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 21:10                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03 21:41                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-03 22:25                             ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 21:59                           ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 22:04                             ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 22:12                           ` Al Viro
2020-07-04  0:49                         ` Al Viro
2020-07-04  1:54                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-04  2:30                             ` Al Viro
2020-07-04  3:06                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-04  2:11                           ` Al Viro
2020-07-07 12:35                             ` David Laight
2020-07-10 22:37                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-13  9:32                                 ` David Laight [this message]

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