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From: Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>
To: Brian Norris <briannorris@chromium.org>
Cc: "Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	"Brian Masney" <bmasney+clk@redhat.com>,
	"Jerome Brunet" <jbrunet+clk@baylibre.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@kernel.org>,
	"Ulf Hansson" <ulfh@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Griffin" <peter.griffin@linaro.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	"Tudor Ambarus" <tudor.ambarus@linaro.org>,
	"André Draszik" <andre.draszik@linaro.org>,
	linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Radu Rendec" <radu@rendec.net>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Mariano Marciello" <mmarciello@google.com>,
	"Douglas Anderson" <dianders@chromium.org>,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, "Jakub Głowacki" <jglow@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/9] reset: google: Add CPM reset driver
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2026 10:14:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <88963fd1fd87123496a55e2002bc8b0dc2466bd4.camel@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aukyyYhDCBUdIH16@google.com>

On Mo, 2026-11-02 at 17:03 -0800, Brian Norris wrote:
> Hi Philipp,
> 
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 03:03:24PM +0100, Philipp Zabel wrote:
> > On Mo, 2026-10-26 at 14:43 -0700, Brian Norris wrote:
[...]
> > > +DEFINE_DEBUGFS_ATTRIBUTE(goog_cpm_rst_assert_debugfs_fops, NULL,
> > > +			 goog_cpm_rst_debugfs_assert_set, "%llu\n");
> > > +
> > > +DEFINE_DEBUGFS_ATTRIBUTE(goog_cpm_rst_deassert_debugfs_fops, NULL,
> > > +			 goog_cpm_rst_debugfs_deassert_set, "%llu\n");
> > > +
> > > +static void goog_cpm_rst_add_debugfs(struct goog_cpm_rst_debugfs_entry *entry,
> > > +				     struct dentry *debugfs_root,
> > > +				     const char *name)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct dentry *d = debugfs_create_dir(name, debugfs_root);
> > > +
> > > +	debugfs_create_file("assert", 0220, d, entry,
> > > +			    &goog_cpm_rst_assert_debugfs_fops);
> > > +	debugfs_create_file("deassert", 0220, d, entry,
> > > +			    &goog_cpm_rst_deassert_debugfs_fops);
> > > +}
> > 
> > Please drop the debugfs functionality or explain what it is needed for.
> 
> Ack. I think I'll probably go with "drop", but some notes:
> 
> There's no real way to test and validate a "reset" driver without a
> consumer. There is no direct (even for debug) interface into the reset
> API, unlike in some other subsystems (e.g., GPIO). I believe the main
> purpose here on Pixel drivers has been hardware+driver testing, so one
> can test reset functionality before hooking it up to real client
> drivers, and without adding fake drivers or extra debug code (a la
> "printf debugging").
> 
> (One might observe these results either via /dev/mem-like access to
> registers, or even through external debug peripherals/consoles that can
> monitor the status of the underlying component that is being reset.)
> 
> This all would generally be in an early hardware bringup scenario, so
> admittedly it probably doesn't have as much of a use case in the
> upstream kernel  -- it's a long shot for this kind of hardware/product
> development to *actually* work directly on an upstream kernel, with
> upstream drivers.
> 
> ...but if I were imagining a better way to do this without bypassing
> reference counting: perhaps it could be useful to a have a
> debug-oriented "reset client" driver, that could bind to arbitrary reset
> devices, if they're not already owned, and expose a sysfs or debugfs
> interface like this? That could fill similar use cases for this sort of
> hardware testing/validation area.
> 
> But anyway, I understand such a proposal should definitely come
> separately from this driver submission.

Thank you for explaining anyway. With that use case in mind, I think
"drop" is the right choice for now. This functionality can be
implemented in the core and use reset controls like any other consumer
driver.

regards
Philipp

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-03  9:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-26 21:43 [PATCH 0/9] google: Add support for Laguna CPM Brian Norris
2026-10-26 21:43 ` [PATCH 1/9] arm64: dts: google: Add Laguna CPM mailbox array Brian Norris
2026-10-28 13:10   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-26 21:43 ` [PATCH 2/9] dt-bindings: soc: google: Add Google Tensor CPM binding Brian Norris
2026-10-28 13:19   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-03  2:36     ` Brian Norris
2026-10-28 13:19   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-26 21:43 ` [PATCH 3/9] soc: google: Add CPM over MailBox Array driver Brian Norris
2026-10-28 13:27   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-03  2:07     ` Brian Norris
2026-10-26 21:43 ` [PATCH 4/9] pmdomain: google: Add CPM power-domain driver Brian Norris
2026-10-26 21:43 ` [PATCH 5/9] clk: google: Add CPM clock driver Brian Norris
2026-10-26 21:43 ` [PATCH 6/9] reset: google: Add CPM reset driver Brian Norris
2026-10-28 14:03   ` Philipp Zabel
2026-11-03  1:03     ` Brian Norris
2026-11-03  9:14       ` Philipp Zabel [this message]
2026-10-26 21:43 ` [PATCH 7/9] irqchip/google-cpm: Add CPM IRQ driver Brian Norris
2026-10-28 20:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-10-26 21:43 ` [PATCH 8/9] arm64: dts: google: Add Laguna CPM node Brian Norris
2026-10-28 13:28   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-26 21:43 ` [PATCH 9/9] MAINTAINERS: Add entries for CPM drivers used on Tensor SoCs Brian Norris
2026-10-28 13:24 ` [PATCH 0/9] google: Add support for Laguna CPM Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-03  2:06   ` Brian Norris

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