From: Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>
To: Brian Norris <briannorris@chromium.org>
Cc: "Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@kernel.org>,
"Brian Masney" <bmasney+clk@redhat.com>,
"Jerome Brunet" <jbrunet+clk@baylibre.com>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@kernel.org>,
"Ulf Hansson" <ulfh@kernel.org>,
"Peter Griffin" <peter.griffin@linaro.org>,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
"Tudor Ambarus" <tudor.ambarus@linaro.org>,
"André Draszik" <andre.draszik@linaro.org>,
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linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Radu Rendec" <radu@rendec.net>,
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"Mariano Marciello" <mmarciello@google.com>,
"Douglas Anderson" <dianders@chromium.org>,
linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, "Jakub Głowacki" <jglow@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/9] reset: google: Add CPM reset driver
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2026 10:14:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <88963fd1fd87123496a55e2002bc8b0dc2466bd4.camel@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aukyyYhDCBUdIH16@google.com>
On Mo, 2026-11-02 at 17:03 -0800, Brian Norris wrote:
> Hi Philipp,
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 03:03:24PM +0100, Philipp Zabel wrote:
> > On Mo, 2026-10-26 at 14:43 -0700, Brian Norris wrote:
[...]
> > > +DEFINE_DEBUGFS_ATTRIBUTE(goog_cpm_rst_assert_debugfs_fops, NULL,
> > > + goog_cpm_rst_debugfs_assert_set, "%llu\n");
> > > +
> > > +DEFINE_DEBUGFS_ATTRIBUTE(goog_cpm_rst_deassert_debugfs_fops, NULL,
> > > + goog_cpm_rst_debugfs_deassert_set, "%llu\n");
> > > +
> > > +static void goog_cpm_rst_add_debugfs(struct goog_cpm_rst_debugfs_entry *entry,
> > > + struct dentry *debugfs_root,
> > > + const char *name)
> > > +{
> > > + struct dentry *d = debugfs_create_dir(name, debugfs_root);
> > > +
> > > + debugfs_create_file("assert", 0220, d, entry,
> > > + &goog_cpm_rst_assert_debugfs_fops);
> > > + debugfs_create_file("deassert", 0220, d, entry,
> > > + &goog_cpm_rst_deassert_debugfs_fops);
> > > +}
> >
> > Please drop the debugfs functionality or explain what it is needed for.
>
> Ack. I think I'll probably go with "drop", but some notes:
>
> There's no real way to test and validate a "reset" driver without a
> consumer. There is no direct (even for debug) interface into the reset
> API, unlike in some other subsystems (e.g., GPIO). I believe the main
> purpose here on Pixel drivers has been hardware+driver testing, so one
> can test reset functionality before hooking it up to real client
> drivers, and without adding fake drivers or extra debug code (a la
> "printf debugging").
>
> (One might observe these results either via /dev/mem-like access to
> registers, or even through external debug peripherals/consoles that can
> monitor the status of the underlying component that is being reset.)
>
> This all would generally be in an early hardware bringup scenario, so
> admittedly it probably doesn't have as much of a use case in the
> upstream kernel -- it's a long shot for this kind of hardware/product
> development to *actually* work directly on an upstream kernel, with
> upstream drivers.
>
> ...but if I were imagining a better way to do this without bypassing
> reference counting: perhaps it could be useful to a have a
> debug-oriented "reset client" driver, that could bind to arbitrary reset
> devices, if they're not already owned, and expose a sysfs or debugfs
> interface like this? That could fill similar use cases for this sort of
> hardware testing/validation area.
>
> But anyway, I understand such a proposal should definitely come
> separately from this driver submission.
Thank you for explaining anyway. With that use case in mind, I think
"drop" is the right choice for now. This functionality can be
implemented in the core and use reset controls like any other consumer
driver.
regards
Philipp
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-03 9:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-26 21:43 [PATCH 0/9] google: Add support for Laguna CPM Brian Norris
2026-10-26 21:43 ` [PATCH 1/9] arm64: dts: google: Add Laguna CPM mailbox array Brian Norris
2026-10-28 13:10 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-26 21:43 ` [PATCH 2/9] dt-bindings: soc: google: Add Google Tensor CPM binding Brian Norris
2026-10-28 13:19 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-03 2:36 ` Brian Norris
2026-10-28 13:19 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-26 21:43 ` [PATCH 3/9] soc: google: Add CPM over MailBox Array driver Brian Norris
2026-10-28 13:27 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-03 2:07 ` Brian Norris
2026-10-26 21:43 ` [PATCH 4/9] pmdomain: google: Add CPM power-domain driver Brian Norris
2026-10-26 21:43 ` [PATCH 5/9] clk: google: Add CPM clock driver Brian Norris
2026-10-26 21:43 ` [PATCH 6/9] reset: google: Add CPM reset driver Brian Norris
2026-10-28 14:03 ` Philipp Zabel
2026-11-03 1:03 ` Brian Norris
2026-11-03 9:14 ` Philipp Zabel [this message]
2026-10-26 21:43 ` [PATCH 7/9] irqchip/google-cpm: Add CPM IRQ driver Brian Norris
2026-10-28 20:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-10-26 21:43 ` [PATCH 8/9] arm64: dts: google: Add Laguna CPM node Brian Norris
2026-10-28 13:28 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-26 21:43 ` [PATCH 9/9] MAINTAINERS: Add entries for CPM drivers used on Tensor SoCs Brian Norris
2026-10-28 13:24 ` [PATCH 0/9] google: Add support for Laguna CPM Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-03 2:06 ` Brian Norris
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