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From: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>,
	"Darren Hart" <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	"Davidlohr Bueso" <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Juri Lelli" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Valentin Schneider" <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	"Waiman Long" <longman@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] futex: Use RCU-based per-CPU reference counting
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 22:34:24 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <88edcfdf-2253-4563-a895-6e8bb1625800@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250715163134.pM1J2XO9@linutronix.de>



On 7/15/25 22:01, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2025-07-15 21:29:34 [+0530], Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
>> Hi. Sorry for not stumble upon this earlier. Saw these now.
>>
>> Since perf bench had shown a significant regression last time around, and
>> for which immutable option was added, gave perf futex a try again.
>>
>> Below are the results: Ran on 5 core LPAR(VM) on power. perf was compiled from tools/perf.
> Thank you.
> 
> If you use perf-bench with -b then the buckets are applied
> "immediately". It mostly works also with auto scaling. The problem is
> that perf creates the threads and immediately after it starts the test.
> While the RCU kicks in shortly after there is no transition happening
> until after all the test completes/ the threads terminate. The reason is
> that several private-hash references are in use because a some threads
> are always in the futex() syscall.
> 
> It would require something like commit
>      a255b78d14324 ("selftests/futex: Adapt the private hash test to RCU related changes")
> 
> to have this transition before the test starts.
> Your schbench seems not affected?

Yes. schbench shows similar number.

> 
> If you use -b, is it better than or equal compared to the immutable
> option? This isn't quite clear.
> n


I did try again by going to baseline, removed BROKEN and ran below. Which gives us immutable numbers.
./perf bench futex hash -Ib512
Averaged 1536035 operations/sec (+- 0.11%), total secs = 10
Futex hashing: 512 hash buckets (immutable)

So, with -b 512 option, it is around 8-10% less compared to immutable.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-15 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-10 11:00 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] selftests/futex: Adapt the private hash test to RCU related changes Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-11 18:33   ` [tip: locking/futex] " tip-bot2 for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] futex: Use RCU-based per-CPU reference counting instead of rcuref_t Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-11 18:33   ` [tip: locking/futex] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-16  2:38     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-26  0:38       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-30 12:20   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] " André Draszik
2025-07-30 19:44     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-01 14:59       ` André Draszik
2025-08-02 13:22       ` [tip: locking/urgent] futex: Move futex cleanup to __mmdrop() tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-21 17:39         ` Breno Leitao
2025-07-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] futex: Make futex_private_hash_get() static Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-11 18:33   ` [tip: locking/futex] " tip-bot2 for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] futex: Remove support for IMMUTABLE Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-11 18:33   ` [tip: locking/futex] " tip-bot2 for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] selftests/futex: " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-11 18:33   ` [tip: locking/futex] " tip-bot2 for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] perf bench futex: " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-11 18:33   ` [tip: locking/futex] " tip-bot2 for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-15 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] futex: Use RCU-based per-CPU reference counting Shrikanth Hegde
2025-07-15 16:31   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-15 17:04     ` Shrikanth Hegde [this message]
2025-07-16 14:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-16 18:21         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-06  9:29           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-06 11:09             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-06 11:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-06 20:17                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-11-06 11:40             ` [tip: locking/urgent] futex: Optimize per-cpu " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-06 15:26               ` Shrikanth Hegde

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