From: Neeraj Kumar <neeraj.kumar01@ymail.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Doing a zero-copy move of data from a kernel buffer to hard disk
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:58:52 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <895917.46195.qm@web113418.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1OyL6H-0002wC-GV@pomaz-ex.szeredi.hu>
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, Neeraj Kumar wrote:
>> I am trying to move data from a buffer in kernel space into the hard
>> disk without having to incur any additional copies from kernel buffer to
>> user buffers or any other kernel buffers. Any ideas/suggestions would be
>> most helpful.
>>
>> The use case is basically a demux driver which collects data into a
>> demux buffer in kernel space and this buffer has to be emptied
>> periodically by copying the contents into a FUSE-based partition on the
>> disk. As the buffer gets full, a user process is signalled which then
>> determines the sector numbers on the disk the contents need to be copied
>> to.
>>
>> I was hoping to mmap the above demux kernel buffer into user address
>> space and issue a write system call to the raw partition device. But
>> from what I can see, the this data is being cached by the kernel on its
>> way to the Hard Disk driver. And so I am assuming that involves
>> additional copies by the linux kernel.
>Isn't this functionality already served by relayfs?
I could not figure out how relayfs could help me.
>> At this point I am wondering if there is any other mechansim to do this
>> without involving additional copies by the kernel. I realize this is an
>> unsual usage scenario for non-embedded environments, but I would
>> appreciate any feedback on possible options.
>>
>> BTW - I have tried using O_DIRECT when opening the raw partition, but
>> the subsequent write call fails if the buffer being passed is the
>> mmapped buffer.
>The other zero-copy mechanism is splice(2).
I looked at the implementation of splice(). It looks promising. I have 2 more
questions related to it:
1. SPLICE_F_MOVE which is needed for zero copy movement of pages is defined as
no op in the kernel code.
Does splice still tries for zero copy movement?
2. I may need to implement splice_read() and splice_write() for the demux
driver. I did not find any other
driver making use of these interfaces in the kernel except file system. Is
there any sample code available
which could help me to understand/implement splice() interfaces in a better way?
Thanks,
Miklos
prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-12 0:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-20 20:12 Neeraj Kumar
2010-09-22 1:02 ` Robert Hancock
2010-10-12 1:10 ` Neeraj Kumar
2010-09-22 8:54 ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-10-12 0:58 ` Neeraj Kumar [this message]
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