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From: "Bryan O'Donoghue" <pure.logic@nexus-software.ie>
To: "Kweh, Hock Leong" <hock.leong.kweh@intel.com>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>
Cc: Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	"linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Ong, Boon Leong" <boon.leong.ong@intel.com>,
	"Mok, Tze Siong" <tze.siong.mok@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] efi: Enhance capsule loader to support signed Quark images
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:51:47 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <89831548-506f-9199-57ae-400ce020081a@nexus-software.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F54AEECA5E2B9541821D670476DAE19C5DE5373E@PGSMSX102.gar.corp.intel.com>

On 17/02/17 08:23, Kweh, Hock Leong wrote:
> And to have UEFI expand
> it capsule support and take in signed binary would be a more secured way.
> So, influencing UEFI community to have such support would be the right
> move throughout the discussion. That is my summary.

CSH stands for "Clanton Secure Header" - Clanton being the internal
code-name for Quark X1000 prior to release.

There is no chance the UEFI standard (which can be used on ARM and
potentially other architectures) will accept a SoC specific
route-of-trust prepended header.

Sure some kind of binary signed headers might become part of the
standard eventually but, definitely _not_ a CSH.

The fact is CSH exists in the real-world and a UEFI firmware supports
accepting the CSH/UEFI-capsule pair for updating itself.

I think a far more practical solution is to accommodate the defacto
implementation (the only ? current implementation). To me it defies
reason to have Quark X1000 be the only system (that I know of) capable
of doing a capsule update - have capsule code in the kernel - but _not_
support the header prepended to that capsule that the Quark
firmware/bootrom require.

Right now the capsule code is dead code on Quark x1000. Let's do the
right thing and make it usable. I fully support having a
separate/parallel conversation with the UEFI body but, I'd be amazed if
the "Clanton Secure Header" made it into the standard...

-- 
bod

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-02-17  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-15 18:14 Jan Kiszka
2017-02-15 18:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] efi/capsule: Prepare for loading images with security header Jan Kiszka
2017-02-15 18:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] efi/capsule: Add support for Quark " Jan Kiszka
2017-02-17  1:30   ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-03-24 16:44     ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-15 18:17 ` [PATCH 0/2] efi: Enhance capsule loader to support signed Quark images Ard Biesheuvel
2017-02-15 18:47   ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-15 18:41 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-15 18:46 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-15 18:50   ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-15 18:59     ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-16  3:00       ` Kweh, Hock Leong
2017-02-16  7:29         ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-18 21:48           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-02-19 13:33             ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-20  1:33               ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-02-20  1:52                 ` Jan Kiszka
2017-03-24 15:18                 ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-17  0:53         ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-02-17  8:23           ` Kweh, Hock Leong
2017-02-17  9:24             ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-28 12:12               ` Matt Fleming
2017-02-28 12:20                 ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-28 12:29                   ` Matt Fleming
2017-02-28 13:25                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-02-28 13:35                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-28 13:36                         ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-28 15:07                           ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-02-28 15:09                             ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-02-28 15:27                             ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-28 16:52                               ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-02-28 17:18                                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-28 17:42                                   ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-03-01 14:02                                     ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-03-01 14:55                                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-17  9:51             ` Bryan O'Donoghue [this message]
2017-02-17 10:14               ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-17 11:42                 ` Bryan O'Donoghue

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