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From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan94@gmail.com>
Cc: "Vincent Guittot" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"John Stultz" <jstultz@google.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Juri Lelli" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Benjamin Segall" <bsegall@google.com>,
	"Mel Gorman" <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"Valentin Schneider" <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"王科 (Ke Wang)" <Ke.Wang@unisoc.com>,
	"Xuewen Yan" <xuewen.yan@unisoc.com>,
	"hongyu.jin@unisoc.com" <hongyu.jin@unisoc.com>,
	guohua.yan@unisoc.com
Subject: Re: [Question] Sched: Severe scheduling latency (>10s) observed on kernel 6.12 with specific workload
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2026 16:58:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <89c464b5-908d-4817-87f4-d8cb905495a4@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB8ipk9UkpD5CBPKvBPAB9MLoXhcFCDoz9yx5dqRVB+X+zTXiA@mail.gmail.com>



On 02.04.26 07:16, Xuewen Yan wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2026 at 9:00 PM Dietmar Eggemann
> <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 01.04.26 12:48, Xuewen Yan wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2026 at 6:05 PM Vincent Guittot
>>> <vincent.guittot@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 at 08:04, Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan94@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2026 at 12:25 PM John Stultz <jstultz@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2026 at 7:32 PM Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan94@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Linux maintainers and reviewers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am writing to report a severe scheduling latency issue we recently
>>>>>>> discovered on Linux Kernel 6.12.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Issue Description
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We observed that when running a specific background workload pattern,
>>>>>>> certain tasks experience excessive scheduling latency. The delay from
>>>>>>> the runnable state to running on the CPU exceeds 10 seconds, and in
>>>>>>> extreme cases, it reaches up to 100 seconds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Environment Details
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kernel Version: 6.12.58-android16-6-g3835fd28159d-ab000018-4k
>>>>>>> Architecture: [ ARM64]
>>>>>>> Hardware: T7300
>>
>> Is this 4 big & 4 little CPUs?
> 
> 6 little + 2big.
> On our devices, background tasks are bound to cores 0-3. To mimic the
> behavior of these background tasks, we also bound rt-app to cores 0-3.
> 
>>
>>>>>>> Config: gki_defconfig
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RT-app‘s workload Pattern:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>     "tasks" : {
>>>>>>>             "t0" : {
>>>>>>>                     "instance" : 40,
>>>>>>>                     "priority" : 0,
>>>>>>>                     "cpus" : [ 0, 1, 2, 3 ],
>>>>>>> "taskgroup" : "/background",
>>>>>>>                     "loop" : -1,
>>>>>>>                     "run" : 200,
>>>>>>>                     "sleep" : 50
>>>>>>>             }
>>>>>>>     }
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And we have applied the following patchs:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251216111321.966709786@linuxfoundation.org/
>>>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260106170509.413636243@linuxfoundation.org/
>>>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260323134533.805879358@linuxfoundation.org/
>>
>> Does the issue happen on v6.12.58 plain (android) or only when those 3
>> additional patches are applied on top?
> 
> The issue was discovered on android16-6.12.58. We applied the
> following three patches, but the issue is still reproducible.
> 
>>
>> d5843e1530d8 - sched/fair: Forfeit vruntime on yield (2025-12-18 Fernand
>> Sieber) v6.12.63
>>
>> bddd95054e33 - sched/eevdf: Fix min_vruntime vs avg_vruntime (2026-01-08
>> Peter Zijlstra) v6.12.64
>>
>> d2fc2dcfce47 - sched/fair: Fix zero_vruntime tracking (2026-03-25 Peter
>> Zijlstra) v6.12.78
> 
> Thanks!

I tried to recreate your env as much as possible on qemu and ran your
rt-app file but I can't spot anything suspicious either. This is with
defconfig and cgroupv2.

$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpu_capacity
512
512
512
512
512
512
1024
1024

10 highest wu_lat values:

v6.6

0.024601000 task0-9:881
0.019151000 task0-13:885
0.018344000 task0-27:899
0.017332000 task0-5:876
0.010613000 task0-21:893
0.010356000 task0-20:892
0.007796000 task0-15:887
0.007550000 task0-13:885
0.007292000 task0-2:872
0.006718000 task0-15:887

6.12.58

0.029507000 task0-32:1211
0.027374000 task0-37:1216
0.027294000 task0-12:1191
0.027063000 task0-11:1190
0.026612000 task0-28:1207
0.024829000 task0-38:1217
0.024472000 task0-18:1197
0.024396000 task0-34:1213
0.024303000 task0-10:1189
0.023317000 task0-26:1205

tip sched/core (7.0.0-rc4-00030-g265439eb88fd)

0.025000000 task0-32:851
0.020467000 task0-5:824
0.017190000 task0-16:835
0.015365000 task0-8:827
0.011591000 task0-32:851
0.010153000 task0-34:853
0.009932000 task0-4:823
0.008972000 task0-24:843
0.008564000 task0-39:858
0.007591000 task0-25:844

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-02 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAB8ipk9N5_pO1Awp6PLnWt6hf1Bu_XtY3qGMJKqz=Uf6eZQejw@mail.gmail.com>
2026-04-01  4:25 ` John Stultz
2026-04-01  6:04   ` Xuewen Yan
2026-04-01 10:05     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-04-01 10:48       ` Xuewen Yan
2026-04-01 13:00         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-04-02  5:16           ` Xuewen Yan
2026-04-02 14:58             ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2026-04-08  2:50               ` Xuewen Yan
2026-04-10 11:13                 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-04-14  5:18                   ` Xuewen Yan
2026-04-14 15:49                     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-04-01 14:01         ` Vincent Guittot
2026-04-02  5:11           ` Xuewen Yan
2026-04-02  5:24             ` Xuewen Yan
2026-04-08 12:19 ` David Laight
2026-04-09 21:39 ` John Stultz
2026-04-10  3:31   ` Xuewen Yan
2026-04-10  4:01     ` John Stultz
2026-04-10 12:24       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-04-13 20:44       ` John Stultz
2026-04-14 15:43         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-04-14 19:21           ` John Stultz

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