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From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com, nfsv4@linux-nfs.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 24/27] NFS: Use local caching [try #2]
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:36:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8DB49AEC-5DA8-4AC3-A660-689E6BC80D2E@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18686.1201663501@redhat.com>

Hi David-

On Jan 29, 2008, at 10:25 PM, David Howells wrote:
> Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com> wrote:
>> This patch really ought to be broken into more manageable atomic
>> changes to make it easier to review, and to provide more fine-grained
>> explanation and rationalization for each specific change via
>> individual patch descriptions.
>
> Hmmm....  I broke the patch up as Trond stipulated - at least, I  
> thought I
> had.
>
> In many ways this request doesn't make sense.  You can't do NFS  
> caching
> without all the appropriate bits, so logically they should be one  
> patch.
> Breaking it up won't help git-bisect since the option to enable all  
> this is
> the last (or nearly last) patch.

In addition to adding a new feature, you are changing existing code.   
If any one of the changes you made breaks existing behavior, having  
them all in small atomic patches makes it practical to bisect and  
find the problem.

In addition it makes it worlds easier to review by people who are not  
so familiar with your fscache implementation.  And smaller patches  
means the ratio of patch descriptions to code changes can be much  
higher.

It does make sense to introduce the files under fs/fsc in a single  
patch.  But when you are changing code that is already being used,  
more care needs to be taken.

>> This should no longer be necessary.  The latest mount.nfs subcommand
>> from nfs-utils supports text-based mounts when running on kernels
>> 2.6.23 and later.
>
> Okay.  I'll update my patches to reflect this.  Note, however, I've  
> got
> someone reporting a bug that seems to show otherwise.  I'll have to
> investigate this more next week.

The very latest version (post 1.1.1) is required today for text-based  
NFS mounts.  (That is, the bleeding edge version you get by cloning  
the nfs-utils git repo).

And it only works on kernels later than 2.6.22 -- if that particular  
user is testing fscache on 2.6.22 or older, then only the legacy  
binary NFS mount system call API is supported.

>> Add comments like this in a separate clean up patch.
>
> ????

+/*
+ * Notification that a PTE pointing to an NFS page is about to be made
+ * writable, implying that someone is about to modify the page  
through a
+ * shared-writable mapping
+ */

What does that have to do with local disk caching?

>>> +struct nfs_fh_auxdata {
>>> +	struct timespec	i_mtime;
>>> +	struct timespec	i_ctime;
>>> +	loff_t		i_size;
>>> +};
>>
>> It might be useful to explain here why you need to supplement the
>> mtime, ctime, and size fields that already exist in an NFS inode.
>
> Supplement?  I don't understand.

Why is it necessary to add additional mtime, ctime and size fields  
for NFS inodes?  Similar metadata is already stored in nfsi.

All I'm asking for is some documentation of what these fields do that  
the existing time stamps and size fields in nfsi don't.  Explain why  
the NFS fsc implementation needs this data structure.

>>> +		key->port = clp->cl_addr.sin_port;
>>
>> Not sure why you are using the server's port here.  In almost every
>> case the server side port number will be 2049, so it really doesn't
>> add any uniquification.
>
> The reason lies is "in almost every case".  It's possible to  
> configure it
> such that a server is running two separate NFS servers on different  
> ports.

We should explore whether it is typical or even possible that such a  
configuration exports the same file handles on different ports, and  
whether that really matters to the client.

>> I strongly recommend you use the existing IPv6 address conversion
>> macros for this instead of open-coding yet another way of mapping an
>> IPv4 address to an IPv6 address.
>>
>> However, since AF_INET6 support is being introduced in the NFS client
>> in 2.6.24, I recommend you take a look at these source files after
>> Trond has pushed his NFS_ALL for 2.6.24.
>
> I'll look at them.

I always do this:  I meant 2.6.25, not 2.6.24.

By the time you return, basic IPv6 support for NFSv4 should be in  
2.6.25-rc1's NFS client (not server).  Not that it is bug-free, but  
an implementation is now there.

--
Chuck Lever
chuck[dot]lever[at]oracle[dot]com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-30 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-23 17:20 [PATCH 00/27] Permit filesystem " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:20 ` [PATCH 01/27] KEYS: Increase the payload size when instantiating a key " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:20 ` [PATCH 02/27] KEYS: Check starting keyring as part of search " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:20 ` [PATCH 03/27] KEYS: Allow the callout data to be passed as a blob rather than a string " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:21 ` [PATCH 04/27] KEYS: Add keyctl function to get a security label " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:21 ` [PATCH 05/27] Security: Change current->fs[ug]id to current_fs[ug]id() " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:21 ` [PATCH 06/27] Security: Separate task security context from task_struct " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:21 ` [PATCH 07/27] Security: De-embed task security record from task and use refcounting " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:21 ` [PATCH 08/27] Add a secctx_to_secid() LSM hook to go along with the existing " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:21 ` [PATCH 09/27] Security: Pre-add additional non-caching classes " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:21 ` [PATCH 10/27] Security: Add a kernel_service object class to SELinux " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:21 ` [PATCH 11/27] Security: Allow kernel services to override LSM settings for task actions " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:21 ` [PATCH 12/27] Security: Make NFSD work with detached security " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:21 ` [PATCH 13/27] FS-Cache: Release page->private after failed readahead " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:21 ` [PATCH 14/27] FS-Cache: Recruit a couple of page flags for cache management " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:21 ` [PATCH 15/27] FS-Cache: Provide an add_wait_queue_tail() function " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:22 ` [PATCH 16/27] FS-Cache: Generic filesystem caching facility " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:22 ` [PATCH 17/27] CacheFiles: Add missing copy_page export for ia64 " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:22 ` [PATCH 18/27] CacheFiles: Be consistent about the use of mapping vs file->f_mapping in Ext3 " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:22 ` [PATCH 19/27] CacheFiles: Add a hook to write a single page of data to an inode " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:22 ` [PATCH 20/27] CacheFiles: Permit the page lock state to be monitored " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:22 ` [PATCH 21/27] CacheFiles: Export things for CacheFiles " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:22 ` [PATCH 22/27] CacheFiles: A cache that backs onto a mounted filesystem " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:22 ` [PATCH 23/27] NFS: Fix memory leak " David Howells
2008-01-24 21:15   ` Trond Myklebust
2008-01-23 17:22 ` [PATCH 24/27] NFS: Use local caching " David Howells
2008-01-24 21:08   ` Trond Myklebust
2008-01-24 21:22   ` Chuck Lever
2008-01-30  3:25   ` David Howells
2008-01-30  6:46     ` Trond Myklebust
2008-01-30 22:36     ` Chuck Lever [this message]
2008-01-31 23:29     ` David Howells
2008-02-07 10:57   ` David Howells
2008-01-23 17:22 ` [PATCH 25/27] NFS: Configuration and mount option changes to enable local caching on NFS " David Howells
2008-01-24 21:14   ` Trond Myklebust
2008-01-23 17:22 ` [PATCH 26/27] NFS: Display local caching state " David Howells
2008-01-23 17:23 ` [PATCH 27/27] NFS: Separate caching by superblock, explicitly if necessary " David Howells

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