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From: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	DelaySystem <DelaySystem@tubot.lat>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil+cisco@kernel.org>,
	Jacopo Mondi <jacopo.mondi@ideasonboard.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: What should bridge drivers use instead of __v4l2_subdev_state_alloc()?
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2026 18:05:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8a1ff8b8-93b6-4853-a108-a3d0a45ca055@ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261108102559.GA103930@killaraus.ideasonboard.com>

Hi,

On 08/11/2026 12:25, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 07, 2026 at 05:31:06PM -0800, DelaySystem wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> While working on drivers/staging/media/tegra-video I ran into the FIXME
>> above __tegra_channel_try_format() in vi.c (added by commit 40aaab9d773b
>> in 2022):
>>
>> 	/* FIXME: Drop this call, drivers are not supposed to use
>> 	 * __v4l2_subdev_state_alloc(). */
>>
>> The driver needs a scratch TRY state to negotiate formats with the remote
>> sensor subdev from video-node ioctl context, where no subdev file handle
>> exists. I looked for the intended replacement, but:
>>
>> - there is no non-dunder allocator in drivers/media or include/media;
>> - v4l2_subdev_call_state_try() is documented for legacy non-MC drivers
>>    only, has no in-tree users, and allocates one state per call, while the
>>    driver needs one state across enum_frame_size + set_fmt + get_crop;
>> - the active-state APIs have the wrong semantics here, since try_fmt must
>>    not disturb ACTIVE state;
>> - the same FIXME is still present in mainline vsp1 and staging atomisp,
>>    and mainline stm32-dcmi still calls the dunder directly, with (as far
>>    as I can tell) zero conversions since the 2022 rename.
>>
>> So my question: is a new core helper the intended direction for the
>> bridge-driver scratch-TRY-state case, and if so, is there any guidance
>> on the shape it should take? Or is there an existing pattern I missed?
>>
>> If a new helper is the answer, I am happy to implement it and convert
>> the in-tree users.
> 
> No, that's not the answer.
I think converting to MC is the answer. At least for a staging driver.

  Tomi


  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-08 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-08  1:31 DelaySystem
2026-11-08 10:25 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-11-08 16:05   ` Tomi Valkeinen [this message]
2026-11-08 16:14     ` Laurent Pinchart

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