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From: AngeloGioacchino Del Regno  <angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>
To: "Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Wu (吳文良)" <Trevor.Wu@mediatek.com>
Cc: "linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"tiwai@suse.com" <tiwai@suse.com>,
	"lgirdwood@gmail.com" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"matthias.bgg@gmail.com" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	"perex@perex.cz" <perex@perex.cz>,
	"alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ASoC: mediatek: mt8188: add constraints for PCM
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 14:27:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8b576880-1c78-84d7-ee46-641c65cdf35d@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6cda3265-7444-46a1-8b2e-75706a839670@sirena.org.uk>

Il 30/06/23 13:00, Mark Brown ha scritto:
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 05:29:23AM +0000, Trevor Wu (吳文良) wrote:
>> On Thu, 2023-06-29 at 16:06 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> 
>>> This commit message isn't entirely clear.  The effect of the commit
>>> is
>>> to restrict the configurations supported when using a nau8825 but
>>> it's
>>> not clear what a nau8825 has to do with this or why we're doing this
>>> in
>>> general.  What exactly do you mean when saying that "only a limited
>>> number of parameters are necessary" and what makes this the case?
> 
>> For instance, some userspace frameworks only support specific sampling
>> rates such as 48kHz on Chromebook, making other parameters unnecessary.
>> By restricting the configuration, unexpected usage can be prevented and
>> the alsa_conformance_test process which checks all parameters provided
>> by an ALSA driver can be sped up.
> 
> That's a userspace policy decision, we shouldn't be enforcing this in
> the kernel - even for Chromebooks people can install other OSs on them
> which may make different decisions, and it's always possible that the
> ChromeOS people might change their mind later.  If they're only
> interested in testing 48kHz and it's slowing things down unreasonably
> to test more then they should just only test 48kHz rather than changing
> the driver to work around it.
> 
>> Would it be more beneficial to establish the criteria as a general rule
>> for this machine driver, while limiting the use of the machine driver
>> solely to the Chromebook project? Or do you just suggest that I add
>> more details in the commit messages?
> 
> I think we just shouldn't do this, it's policy for ChromeOS rather than
> something that's actually needed.  If we were doing this it would need a
> much clearer commit message and we should be restricting things to
> Chromebooks only.

I agree with Mark. Except for me it's not a *should not* but a *shall not*.

Such other configurations are supported by the hardware and it is the driver's
duty to support all of them - otherwise I deem the driver to be *incomplete*.
It's then the userspace's duty to properly use the sound APIs and request the
right sampling rate for specific usecases.

Chromebooks aren't special at all in this regard.

Regards,
Angelo

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-03 12:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-29  7:59 Trevor Wu
2023-06-29 15:06 ` Mark Brown
2023-06-30  5:29   ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2023-06-30 11:00     ` Mark Brown
2023-07-03 12:27       ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno [this message]
2023-07-04  2:01         ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)

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