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From: Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] scripts/checksyscalls.sh: only whine perf_counter_open  when supported
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:16:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8bd0f97a0906120816w26d91530nf1e1967470beb99c@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090612120507.GH16044@elte.hu>

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 08:05, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> If the port does not support HAVE_PERF_COUNTERS, then they can't
>> support the perf_counter_open syscall either.  Rather than forcing
>> everyone to add an ignore (or suffer the warning until they get
>> around to implementing support), only whine about the syscall when
>> applicable.
>
> No, this patch is wrong - it's really easy to add support: just hook
> up the syscall. This should happen for every architecture really, so
> the warning is correct and it should not be patched out.
>
> PMU support is not required to get perfcounters support: if an
> architecture hooks up the syscall it will get generic software
> counters and the tools will work as well.
>
> Profiling falls back to a hrtimer-based sampling method - this is a
> much better fallback than oprofile's fall-back to the timer tick.
> This hrtimer based sampling is dynticks/nohz-correct and can go
> beyond HZ if the architecture supports hrtimers.

these statements are actually incorrect.  the perf counter code
explicitly requires:
 - asm/perf_counter.h
 - support for atomic64 types (unless i missed something, x86 is the
only 32bit system that supports these)
 - some perf stubs (like set_perf_counter_pending() -- prototype
really should be in common perf_counters headers rather than forcing
the arch to copy & paste the exact same line)

not that any of this is documented ...
-mike

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-12 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-12 11:29 Mike Frysinger
2009-06-12 12:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 12:13   ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-12 12:17     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 12:22       ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-12 12:31         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 12:41           ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-12 12:59             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 13:04               ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-12 13:09                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 13:21                   ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-12 13:56                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 15:25                       ` Alan Cox
2009-06-12 15:56                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 16:57                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 17:11                         ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-12 13:34           ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-12 15:16   ` Mike Frysinger [this message]
2009-06-12 15:21     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 15:29       ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-12 15:50         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-13 21:00         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-13  4:37   ` Paul Mackerras
2009-06-13 10:48 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-14  9:37   ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-14  9:55     ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-14 10:11       ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-14 10:55         ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-14 11:20           ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-14 11:47             ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-14 11:20           ` Sam Ravnborg

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