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From: Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	 "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] rseq/selftests: Add test for mm_cid compaction
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 14:49:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8c5cdd12a0ec80d43fe737f5d2c4600d5933ba87.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e9ef4c7b2b979aec73f948cab33b5b4c0af4a804.camel@redhat.com>



On Tue, 2025-02-18 at 09:13 +0100, Gabriele Monaco wrote:
> 
> However, I'm still not particularly fond of running stuff there at
> all.
> If a periodic task needs to run now, it preempts everything else and
> should be on its way as soon as possible. A task work is always going
> to delay this, although by a tiny bit.
> 
> Again, for now I cannot think of a better way without bringing
> workqueues into the picture, and in this specific case we have a
> valid
> workaround to reduce the latency.
> 

Been thinking about this for a while, what about getting the best from
both worlds?
MMs already have a dependency on workqueues (async_put_work) they
simply don't wildly schedule them like I was doing, essentially, the
whole periodic delayed_work thing was the issue.
Substituting what is currently a task_work with a plain work_struct (on
the mm) doesn't look too bad to me.

We still keep the mechanism to trigger and regulate its frequency and,
instead of doing it from a tick, we do it from
__rseq_handle_notify_resume.
This way we won't have it scheduled for sleeping, never running or
whatever exotic threads (which was a potential issue with the
delayed_work) but we also keep it in a preemptible context with
frequency comparable to the task_work.

Running it in a work_struct would probably make the batch scan
superfluous, since we are talking about some 30us which can run
perfectly fine in a kworker.

What do you think?

Thanks,
Gabriele


      reply	other threads:[~2025-02-18 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-17 11:23 [PATCH 0/2] sched: Run task_mm_cid_work in batches to lower latency Gabriele Monaco
2025-02-17 11:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched: Compact RSEQ concurrency IDs in batches Gabriele Monaco
2025-02-17 19:46   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-18  9:52     ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-02-17 11:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] rseq/selftests: Add test for mm_cid compaction Gabriele Monaco
2025-02-17 19:59   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-18  8:13     ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-02-18 13:49       ` Gabriele Monaco [this message]

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