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From: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>
To: Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Tim.Bird@sony.com, knut.omang@oracle.com,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, keescook@google.com,
	kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com, mcgrof@kernel.org,
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	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	kunit-dev@googlegroups.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
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	Alexander.Levin@microsoft.com, amir73il@gmail.com,
	dan.carpenter@oracle.com, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
	daniel@ffwll.ch, jdike@addtoit.com, joel@jms.id.au,
	julia.lawall@lip6.fr, khilman@baylibre.com, mpe@ellerman.id.au,
	pmladek@suse.com, richard@nod.at, rientjes@google.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, wfg@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/17] kunit: introduce KUnit, the Linux kernel unit testing framework
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 18:26:11 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8c693b9f-43ec-8982-825c-cabfd61b659d@deltatee.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5ff098a9-9424-901c-9017-d4492e306528@gmail.com>



On 2019-05-14 6:14 p.m., Frank Rowand wrote:
> The high level issue is to provide reviewers with enough context to be
> able to evaluate the patch series.  That is probably not very obvious
> at this point in the thread.  At this point I was responding to Logan's
> response to me that I should be reading Documentation to get a better
> description of KUnit features.  I _think_ that Logan thought that I
> did not understand KUnit features and was trying to be helpful by
> pointing out where I could get more information.  If so, he was missing
> my intended point had been that patch 0 should provide more information
> to justify adding this feature.

Honestly, I lost track of wait exactly your point was. And, in my
opinion, Brendan has provided over and above the information required to
justify Kunit's inclusion.

> One thing that has become very apparent in the discussion of this patch
> series is that some people do not understand that kselftest includes
> in-kernel tests, not just userspace tests.  As such, KUnit is an
> additional implementation of "the same feature".  (One can debate
> exactly which in-kernel test features kselftest and KUnit provide,
> and how much overlap exists or does not exist.  So don't take "the
> same feature" as my final opinion of how much overlap exists.)  So
> that is a key element to be noted and explained.

From my perspective, once we were actually pointed to the in-kernel
kselftest code and took a look at it, it was clear there was no
over-arching framework to them and that Kunit could be used to
significantly improve those tests with a common structure. Based on my
reading of the thread, Ted came to the same conclusion.

I don't think we should block this feature from being merged, and for
future work, someone can update the in-kernel kselftests to use the new
framework.

Logan

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-15  0:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-01 23:01 Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] kunit: test: add KUnit test runner core Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] kunit: test: add test resource management API Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] kunit: test: add string_stream a std::stream like string builder Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03  1:26   ` shuah
2019-05-03  4:37     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] kunit: test: add kunit_stream a std::stream like logger Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 11:00   ` Greg KH
2019-05-02 20:25     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 21:18       ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-03  1:50   ` shuah
2019-05-03  5:48     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] kunit: test: add the concept of expectations Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] kbuild: enable building KUnit Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10  3:03   ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-05-10 10:27     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10 10:30       ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-05-10 10:33         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] kunit: test: add initial tests Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 10:58   ` Greg KH
2019-05-02 20:30     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03  1:27   ` shuah
2019-05-03  5:18     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] kunit: test: add support for test abort Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03  3:14   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-05-03  6:48     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03 12:33       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-05-06  8:48         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] kunit: test: add tests for kunit " Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] kunit: test: add the concept of assertions Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] kunit: test: add test managed resource tests Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03 14:34   ` shuah
2019-05-06  9:03     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] kunit: tool: add Python wrappers for running KUnit tests Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 11:02   ` Greg KH
2019-05-02 18:07     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 21:16       ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-02 23:45         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03  1:45           ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-03  5:36             ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03 18:59               ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-03 23:14                 ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-04 10:42                   ` Greg KH
2019-05-06  0:19                   ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-06 17:43                     ` Kees Cook
2019-05-06 21:42                       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-06 21:39                     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-07 19:13                       ` Tim.Bird
2019-05-03  6:41           ` Greg KH
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] kunit: defconfig: add defconfigs for building " Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] Documentation: kunit: add documentation for KUnit Brendan Higgins
2019-05-09  5:08   ` Randy Dunlap
2019-05-09 17:38     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] MAINTAINERS: add entry for KUnit the unit testing framework Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03 14:38   ` shuah
2019-05-06  9:18     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] kernel/sysctl-test: Add null pointer test for sysctl.c:proc_dointvec() Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 11:03   ` Greg KH
2019-05-02 18:14     ` Tim.Bird
2019-05-02 18:45       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03  6:42         ` Greg KH
2019-05-03 23:41           ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-04 10:40             ` Greg KH
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] MAINTAINERS: add proc sysctl KUnit test to PROC SYSCTL section Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 10:50 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] kunit: introduce KUnit, the Linux kernel unit testing framework Greg KH
2019-05-02 11:05   ` Greg KH
2019-05-03  0:41     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 14:04   ` shuah
2019-05-03  0:44     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03  3:18 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-05-07  3:14 ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-07  8:01   ` Greg KH
2019-05-07 15:23     ` shuah
2019-05-09  1:01       ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-07 17:22     ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-08 19:17       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-09  0:58       ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-09  1:44         ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-09  2:18           ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-14  8:22         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-09  0:43     ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-09  1:58       ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-09  2:13         ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-09  3:20           ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-09 11:52             ` Knut Omang
2019-05-09 13:35               ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-09 14:48                 ` Knut Omang
2019-05-09 17:00                 ` Tim.Bird
2019-05-09 17:42                   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-09 18:12                   ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-09 21:42                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-09 22:20                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-05-09 23:30                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-09 23:40                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-05-10  4:47                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-10  5:18                             ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-10  5:48                               ` Knut Omang
2019-05-10  8:12                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-10 10:23                                   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10 12:12                                     ` Knut Omang
2019-05-10 20:54                                       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10 22:18                                         ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-11  6:17                                           ` Knut Omang
2019-05-14  6:39                                             ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10 21:59                                     ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-11  6:43                                       ` Knut Omang
2019-05-14  8:00                                         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10 11:36                                   ` Knut Omang
2019-05-10 16:17                               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-05-10 22:13                                 ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-14  8:38                                   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-15  0:14                                     ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-15  0:26                                       ` Logan Gunthorpe [this message]
2019-05-10 21:52                         ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-14 20:54                           ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10 21:12                       ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-11 17:33                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-13 14:44                           ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-14  6:04                             ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14 12:05                               ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-14 18:36                                 ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-15  7:41                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-22 21:38                                     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-23  8:40                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-15  0:26                           ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-15  4:28                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-10  5:11           ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-10 10:43             ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-10 21:05               ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-09 15:19 ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-05-10 10:25   ` Brendan Higgins

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