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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Kiryl Shutsemau <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@redhat.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
	npache@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com, dev.jain@arm.com,
	baohua@kernel.org, ioworker0@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-new 1/3] mm/khugepaged: skip unsuitable VMAs earlier in khugepaged_scan_mm_slot()
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2025 10:58:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8cd717a3-b149-4eb9-88d2-ea4b9b1112f5@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3az7vzkhpa2pup3td5pbrek6ti2fij574qimtnbpecums7ixyl@upabkyqmtiaf>

On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 10:48:22AM +0100, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 10:39:53AM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 10:29:11AM +0100, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 02:21:26PM +0800, Lance Yang wrote:
> > > > Users of mlock() expect low and predictable latency. THP collapse is a
> > > > heavy operation that introduces exactly the kind of unpredictable delays
> > > > they want to avoid. It has to unmap PTEs, copy data from the small folios
> > > > to a new THP, and then remap the THP back to the PMD ;)
> > >
> > > Generally, we allow minor page faults into mlocked VMAs and avoid major.
> > > This is minor page fault territory in my view.
> >
> > Hm, but we won't be causing minor faults via reclaim right, since they're
> > not on any LRU?
>
> PTEs are still present when we do THP allocation. No reclaim while the
> access is blocked. We only block the access on copy and PTEs->PMD
> collapse.

Right indeed, esp. with compaction being allowed for mlock, I agree with you
that this patch should be dropped :)

>
> --
>   Kiryl Shutsemau / Kirill A. Shutemov

Cheers, Lorenzo

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-16  9:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-14 14:35 [PATCH mm-new 0/3] mm/khugepaged: optimize collapse candidate detection Lance Yang
2025-09-14 14:35 ` [PATCH mm-new 1/3] mm/khugepaged: skip unsuitable VMAs earlier in khugepaged_scan_mm_slot() Lance Yang
2025-09-14 16:16   ` Dev Jain
2025-09-15  3:02     ` Lance Yang
2025-09-16  5:32   ` Hugh Dickins
2025-09-16  6:21     ` Lance Yang
2025-09-16  6:42       ` Hugh Dickins
2025-09-16  7:05         ` Lance Yang
2025-09-16  9:29       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-09-16  9:39         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-16  9:48           ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-09-16  9:58             ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-09-16 10:00               ` Lance Yang
2025-09-16  9:59           ` Lance Yang
2025-09-14 14:35 ` [PATCH mm-new 2/3] mm: clean up and expose is_guard_pte_marker() Lance Yang
2025-09-14 16:38   ` Dev Jain
2025-09-15  4:24     ` Lance Yang
2025-09-15 13:54   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 14:26     ` Lance Yang
2025-09-17 10:32   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-14 14:35 ` [PATCH mm-new 3/3] mm/khugepaged: abort collapse scan on guard PTEs Lance Yang
2025-09-14 17:03   ` Dev Jain
2025-09-15  3:36     ` Lance Yang
2025-09-15 14:08   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 14:42     ` Lance Yang

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