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From: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>, Babu Moger <Babu.Moger@amd.com>,
	shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com,
	D Scott Phillips OS <scott@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	carl@os.amperecomputing.com, lcherian@marvell.com,
	bobo.shaobowang@huawei.com, tan.shaopeng@fujitsu.com,
	xingxin.hx@openanolis.org, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com,
	Jamie Iles <quic_jiles@quicinc.com>,
	Xin Hao <xhao@linux.alibaba.com>,
	peternewman@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/18] x86/resctrl: Queue mon_event_read() instead of sending an IPI
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 16:09:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8d05bce5-b145-3df3-7445-02aa31ca877c@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a9e4fed-c969-490c-d602-d00bcdcb5096@arm.com>

Hi Reinette,

On 06/03/2023 11:33, James Morse wrote:
> On 02/02/2023 23:47, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>> On 1/13/2023 9:54 AM, James Morse wrote:
>>> x86 is blessed with an abundance of monitors, one per RMID, that can be
>>> read from any CPU in the domain. MPAMs monitors reside in the MMIO MSC,
>>> the number implemented is up to the manufacturer. This means when there are
>>> fewer monitors than needed, they need to be allocated and freed.
>>>
>>> Worse, the domain may be broken up into slices, and the MMIO accesses
>>> for each slice may need performing from different CPUs.
>>>
>>> These two details mean MPAMs monitor code needs to be able to sleep, and
>>> IPI another CPU in the domain to read from a resource that has been sliced.
>>>
>>> mon_event_read() already invokes mon_event_count() via IPI, which means
>>> this isn't possible.
>>>
>>> Change mon_event_read() to schedule mon_event_count() on a remote CPU and
>>> wait, instead of sending an IPI. This function is only used in response to
>>> a user-space filesystem request (not the timing sensitive overflow code).
>>>
>>> This allows MPAM to hide the slice behaviour from resctrl, and to keep
>>> the monitor-allocation in monitor.c.

>>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/ctrlmondata.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/ctrlmondata.c
>>> index 1df0e3262bca..4ee3da6dced7 100644
>>> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/ctrlmondata.c
>>> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/ctrlmondata.c
>>> @@ -542,7 +545,7 @@ void mon_event_read(struct rmid_read *rr, struct rdt_resource *r,
>>>  	rr->val = 0;
>>>  	rr->first = first;
>>>  
>>> -	smp_call_function_any(&d->cpu_mask, mon_event_count, rr, 1);
>>> +	smp_call_on_cpu(cpumask_any(&d->cpu_mask), mon_event_count, rr, false);
> 
>> This would be problematic for the use cases where single tasks are run on
>> adaptive-tick CPUs. If an adaptive-tick CPU is chosen to run the function then
>> it may never run. Real-time environments are target usage of resctrl (with examples
>> in the documentation).
> 
> Interesting. I can't find an IPI wakeup under smp_call_on_cpu() ... I wonder what else
> this breaks!
> 
> Resctrl doesn't consider the nohz-cpus when doing any of this work, or when setting up the
> limbo or overflow timer work.
> 
> I think the right thing to do here is add some cpumask_any_housekeeping() helper to avoid
> nohz-full CPUs where possible, and fall back to an IPI if all the CPUs in a domain are
> nohz-full.
> 
> Ideally cpumask_any() would do this but it isn't possible without allocating memory.
> If I can reproduce this problem,  ...

... I haven't been able to reproduce this.

With "nohz_full=1 isolcpus=nohz,domain,1" on the command-line I can still
smp_call_on_cpu() on cpu-1 even when its running a SCHED_FIFO task that spins in
user-space as much as possible.

This looks to be down to "sched: RT throttling activated", which seems to be to prevent RT
CPU hogs from blocking kernel work. From Peter's comments at [0], it looks like running
tasks 100% in user-space isn't a realistic use-case.

Given that, I think resctrl should use smp_call_on_cpu() to avoid interrupting a nohz_full
CPUs, and the limbo/overflow code should equally avoid these CPUs. If work does get
scheduled on those CPUs, it is expected to run eventually.


Thanks,

James

[0] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20130823110254.GU31370@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net/

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-08 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-13 17:54 [PATCH v2 00/18] x86/resctrl: monitored closid+rmid together, separate arch/fs locking James Morse
2023-01-13 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 01/18] x86/resctrl: Track the closid with the rmid James Morse
2023-01-13 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 02/18] x86/resctrl: Access per-rmid structures by index James Morse
2023-01-17 18:28   ` Yu, Fenghua
2023-03-03 18:33     ` James Morse
2023-01-17 18:29   ` Yu, Fenghua
2023-02-02 23:44   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-03-03 18:33     ` James Morse
2023-01-13 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 03/18] x86/resctrl: Create helper for RMID allocation and mondata dir creation James Morse
2023-01-13 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 04/18] x86/resctrl: Move rmid allocation out of mkdir_rdt_prepare() James Morse
2023-01-17 18:28   ` Yu, Fenghua
2023-02-02 23:45   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-03-03 18:33     ` James Morse
2023-01-13 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 05/18] x86/resctrl: Allow RMID allocation to be scoped by CLOSID James Morse
2023-01-17 18:53   ` Yu, Fenghua
2023-03-03 18:34     ` James Morse
2023-02-02 23:45   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-03-03 18:34     ` James Morse
2023-03-10 19:57       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-01-13 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 06/18] x86/resctrl: Allow the allocator to check if a CLOSID can allocate clean RMID James Morse
2023-01-17 18:29   ` Yu, Fenghua
2023-03-03 18:35     ` James Morse
2023-02-02 23:46   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-03-03 18:36     ` James Morse
2023-03-10 19:59       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-03-20 17:12         ` James Morse
2023-01-13 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 07/18] x86/resctrl: Move CLOSID/RMID matching and setting to use helpers James Morse
2023-01-17 19:10   ` Yu, Fenghua
2023-03-03 18:37     ` James Morse
2023-02-02 23:47   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-03-06 11:32     ` James Morse
2023-03-08 10:30       ` Peter Newman
2023-03-10 20:00       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-01-13 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 08/18] x86/resctrl: Queue mon_event_read() instead of sending an IPI James Morse
2023-01-17 18:29   ` Yu, Fenghua
2023-03-06 11:32     ` James Morse
2023-03-10 20:00       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-02-02 23:47   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-03-06 11:33     ` James Morse
2023-03-08 16:09       ` James Morse [this message]
2023-03-10 20:06         ` Reinette Chatre
2023-03-20 17:12           ` James Morse
2023-01-13 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 09/18] x86/resctrl: Allow resctrl_arch_rmid_read() to sleep James Morse
2023-01-23 13:54   ` Peter Newman
2023-03-06 11:33     ` James Morse
2023-01-23 15:33   ` Peter Newman
2023-03-06 11:33     ` James Morse
2023-03-06 13:14       ` Peter Newman
2023-03-08 17:45         ` James Morse
2023-03-09 13:41           ` Peter Newman
2023-03-09 17:35             ` James Morse
2023-03-10  9:28               ` Peter Newman
2023-03-20 17:12                 ` James Morse
2023-03-22 13:21                   ` Peter Newman
2023-01-13 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 10/18] x86/resctrl: Allow arch to allocate memory needed in resctrl_arch_rmid_read() James Morse
2023-01-13 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 11/18] x86/resctrl: Make resctrl_mounted checks explicit James Morse
2023-01-13 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 12/18] x86/resctrl: Move alloc/mon static keys into helpers James Morse
2023-01-13 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 13/18] x86/resctrl: Make rdt_enable_key the arch's decision to switch James Morse
2023-02-02 23:48   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-01-13 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 14/18] x86/resctrl: Add helpers for system wide mon/alloc capable James Morse
2023-01-25  7:16   ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2023-03-06 11:34     ` James Morse
2023-01-13 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 15/18] x86/resctrl: Add cpu online callback for resctrl work James Morse
2023-01-13 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 16/18] x86/resctrl: Allow overflow/limbo handlers to be scheduled on any-but cpu James Morse
2023-02-02 23:49   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-03-06 11:34     ` James Morse
2023-01-13 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 17/18] x86/resctrl: Add cpu offline callback for resctrl work James Morse
2023-01-13 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 18/18] x86/resctrl: Separate arch and fs resctrl locks James Morse
2023-02-02 23:50   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-03-06 11:34     ` James Morse
2023-03-11  0:22       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-03-20 17:12         ` James Morse
2023-01-25  7:19 ` [PATCH v2 00/18] x86/resctrl: monitored closid+rmid together, separate arch/fs locking Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)

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