mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: yangsonghua <jluyangsonghua@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	yangsonghua <yangsonghua@lixiang.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched/rt: Push RT tasks when preempted by a deadline task
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2026 11:22:35 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8e2d6d3a-b4d5-48fc-a530-be54897198f5@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260626032326.6581-1-yangsonghua@lixiang.com>

Hello Yangsonghua, 

On 6/26/2026 8:53 AM, yangsonghua wrote:
> [You don't often get email from jluyangsonghua@gmail.com. Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ]
> 
> Commit 704069649b5b ("sched/core: Rework sched_class::wakeup_preempt()
> and rq_modified_*()") made wakeup_preempt_rt() callable for cross-class
> wakeups, leaving a "XXX If we're preempted by DL, queue a push?" comment
> with no implementation.
> 
> When a SCHED_DEADLINE task preempts a running SCHED_FIFO/SCHED_RR task,
> the RT class's put_prev_task_rt() is the natural place to trigger a push:
> at that point the preempted task is (conditionally) added to
> pushable_tasks, and we have 'next' available to identify the reason for
> preemption.
> 
> The earlier wakeup_preempt_rt() call site is too early: the running RT
> task has not yet been added to pushable_tasks, so rt_queue_push_tasks()
> would be a no-op for the common single-RT-task-per-CPU case.
> 
> Guard the dl_task(next) check with a NULL test.  put_prev_task_rt() is
> reachable with next == NULL when called via the bare put_prev_task()
> wrapper (sched.h), which always passes NULL:
> 
>   sched_change_begin()
>     put_prev_task(rq, p)              /* next = NULL */
>       put_prev_task_rt(rq, p, NULL)
>         dl_task(NULL) -> NULL deref   /* BUG in v1 */
> 
> The actual DL-preemption path goes through put_prev_set_next_task(),
> which supplies the real next task, so the NULL guard does not change
> the intended trigger condition.
> 
> Regarding potentially unnecessary push/pull cycles for short-lived DL
> tasks: this is an inherent property of any asynchronous push mechanism.
> rt_queue_push_tasks() enqueues a balance callback rather than migrating
> synchronously, so by the time it fires the DL task may have already
> yielded; in that case the RT task may need to be pulled back.  This
> trade-off is acceptable: leaving RT tasks stranded on a busy CPU
> while peer CPUs sit idle is worse than an occasional redundant
> migration.  The same concern applies to the existing triggers of
> rt_queue_push_tasks() (e.g. after dequeue_task_rt), so this path is
> consistent with the established policy.
> 
> Fix this by adding a dl_task(next) check in put_prev_task_rt(), guarded
> against NULL.  This is intentionally placed outside and after the
> enqueue_pushable_task() condition, so that a push is triggered even when
> the preempted RT task is pinned (nr_cpus_allowed == 1) or blocked
> (proxy-exec): in those cases there may be other migratable RT tasks
> already sitting in pushable_tasks.

That cannot be the case. More details below.

> 
> The task_is_blocked() early-return is folded into the
> enqueue_pushable_task() condition to avoid inadvertently suppressing the
> new push logic.
> 
> Note: this does not cover the DL-server case where a fair-class task
> running under DL bandwidth budget displaces an RT task; that is a
> separate concern.
> 
> Signed-off-by: yangsonghua <yangsonghua@lixiang.com>
> ---
> Changes in v2:
>  - Guard dl_task(next) with a 'next != NULL' check to fix a NULL pointer
>    dereference when put_prev_task_rt() is called from sched_change_begin()
>    via the put_prev_task() wrapper, which always passes next = NULL.
>  - Extend the commit message to explain the NULL call path and address the
>    reviewer concern about unnecessary push/pull cycles for short-lived DL
>    tasks.
>  - Improve wakeup_preempt_rt() comment to explicitly point readers to
>    put_prev_task_rt() where the DL push is now handled.
> 
>  kernel/sched/rt.c | 24 +++++++++++++++++++-----
>  1 file changed, 19 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/rt.c b/kernel/sched/rt.c
> index e474c31d8fe6..ef8cdc4c25d2 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/rt.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/rt.c
> @@ -1627,7 +1627,10 @@ static void wakeup_preempt_rt(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags)
>         struct task_struct *donor = rq->donor;
> 
>         /*
> -        * XXX If we're preempted by DL, queue a push?
> +        * If the incoming task belongs to a higher-priority class (e.g. DL),
> +        * we only handle same-class RT preemption here.  The DL case is
> +        * handled in put_prev_task_rt() once the current task has been
> +        * added to pushable_tasks.
>          */
>         if (p->sched_class != &rt_sched_class)
>                 return;
> @@ -1736,14 +1739,25 @@ static void put_prev_task_rt(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, struct task_s
> 
>         update_rt_rq_load_avg(rq_clock_pelt(rq), rq, 1);
> 
> -       if (task_is_blocked(p))
> -               return;

I still don't get why we are removing this early return. When "p" was
selected to run, it would have already queued a balance callback via
set_nex_task_rt() and the balance would have been done during last
__schedule().

If there are pushable tasks on the list still, they'll still remain
non-pushable since they haven't run on CPU and nothing has changed for
them to suddenly enable a movement.

"p" itself is a blocked task so it cannot be moved - it'll simply
follow the lock owner via proxy migration path whenever it gets a
chance.

So the gist is: If there are pushable tasks, then balance failed to
move them previously. If the state of the system had changed,
balance_rt() on a remote CPU would have already pulled the highest
priority task from this rq.

I feel that early return for blocked task should stay as is since
there is no opportunity for balance yet unless I'm missing something.

>         /*
>          * The previous task needs to be made eligible for pushing
> -        * if it is still active
> +        * if it is still active and migratable.
>          */
> -       if (on_rt_rq(&p->rt) && p->nr_cpus_allowed > 1)
> +       if (!task_is_blocked(p) && on_rt_rq(&p->rt) && p->nr_cpus_allowed > 1)
>                 enqueue_pushable_task(rq, p);
> +
> +       /*
> +        * When a deadline task takes over this CPU, try to push any queued
> +        * RT tasks to CPUs running lower-priority work. This is independent
> +        * of whether p itself is pushable: even if p is pinned or blocked,
> +        * there may be other migratable RT tasks already in pushable_tasks.
> +        *
> +        * next is NULL when called from put_prev_task() (e.g. sched_change_begin);
> +        * guard accordingly.  rt_queue_push_tasks() checks has_pushable_tasks()
> +        * internally, so this is a no-op if nothing is queued.
> +        */
> +       if (next && dl_task(next))
> +               rt_queue_push_tasks(rq);

Based on some quick look at the cpupri bits, I think this makes sense.

Since we try to move "p" to a CPU running a lower priority task and a
deadline task would have increased the priority of this CPU anyways, it
is fair to attempt a push.

I'll let Steve finish his metamorphosis and see if that estimate is
wrong or not ;-)

>  }
> 
>  /* Only try algorithms three times */
> --
> 2.34.1
> 

-- 
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-26  5:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-26  3:23 yangsonghua
2026-06-26  5:52 ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2026-06-26  7:09   ` yangsonghua

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=8e2d6d3a-b4d5-48fc-a530-be54897198f5@amd.com \
    --to=kprateek.nayak@amd.com \
    --cc=bsegall@google.com \
    --cc=dietmar.eggemann@arm.com \
    --cc=jluyangsonghua@gmail.com \
    --cc=juri.lelli@redhat.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mingo@redhat.com \
    --cc=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
    --cc=vincent.guittot@linaro.org \
    --cc=vschneid@redhat.com \
    --cc=yangsonghua@lixiang.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®