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From: "Jose A. Perez de Azpillaga" <azpijr@gmail.com>
To: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Brendan Jackman <brendan.jackman@linux.dev>,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>, Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>, Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	Baoquan He <baoquan.he@linux.dev>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	JP Kobryn <jp.kobryn@linux.dev>,
	Frank van der Linden <fvdl@google.com>,
	Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo <cascardo@igalia.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, vmscan: make kswapd unreserve highatomic pageblocks
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2026 13:11:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8e353a2e-fa06-4211-882b-08fb81d07802@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b45f79bc-5a3a-430d-8a64-5a1ac6097d25@kernel.org>

On 11/5/26 12:52 PM, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> On 11/5/26 12:43, Jose A. Perez de Azpillaga wrote:
>> On 11/5/26 9:02 AM, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>>> On 11/4/26 22:56, Jose A. Perez de Azpillaga wrote:
>>>> On 11/4/26 7:38 PM, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>>>>> Hook this highatomic unreserve to the moment we are increasing kswapd
>>>>> reclaim priority, as that is when kswapd is struggling to make progress
>>>>> and it should roughly match the case of direct reclaim failure.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> isn't raise_priority true after almost every pass at DEF_PRIORITY, stuck
>>>> or not?
>>>
>>> Can you elaborate why? At least at first glance, kswapd_shrink_node() should
>>> return true if it scans the requested amount of pages. So I would assume
>>> that although balance_pgdat() will do multiple iterations to reach high
>>> watermarks (because every round of kswapd_shrink_node() will limit itself to
>>> SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX per zone for sc->nr_to_reclaim) this should not be raising
>>> priority if the rounds are successful?
>>>
>>
>>
>> it's max(high_wmark_pages(zone), SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX) per zone, so the sum
>> of the high watermarks. by default that's at least managed/500, while
> 
> Ah thanks, as usual I got the min/max logic wrong, hehe.
> 

don't worry :)

>> DEF_PRIORITY scans lru >> 12, so it can't return true above priority 8
>> even when every round is successful. and sc.priority-- runs before
>> pgdat_balanced() is rechecked, so a wakeup that balances the node in one
>> pass still unreserves a pageblock per zone.
> 
> Yeah in that case it would probably be safer to perform the unreserve only
> after reaching the highest (lowest numerically) priority and still failing?
> I think it should still be enough to recover from the pathological scenario,
> which should be rare (but not impossible) in the first place.

makes sense to me, as long as kswapd reclaims something. if it doesn't
it goes hopeless after MAX_RECLAIM_RETRIES runs and stays that way until
the node is balanced, so that's only ~16 unreserves per zone.

-- 
cheers,
jose a. p-a

      reply	other threads:[~2026-11-05 12:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-04 18:38 Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-11-04 20:03 ` Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
2026-11-04 21:17   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-11-04 21:56 ` Jose A. Perez de Azpillaga
2026-11-05  8:02   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-11-05 11:43     ` Jose A. Perez de Azpillaga
2026-11-05 11:52       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-11-05 12:11         ` Jose A. Perez de Azpillaga [this message]

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