From: "Jeroen van Rijn" <jvrnix@gmail.com>
To: "Andi Kleen" <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: "Tony Vroon" <tony@vroon.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Request for MCE decode (AMD Barcelona, fam 10h)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:13:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8ee0b8e80809080413r1eb75a2bu1b29ffdf06daa319@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87abeivrdf.fsf@basil.nowhere.org>
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:
> Tony Vroon <tony@vroon.org> writes:
>
>> HARDWARE ERROR. This is *NOT* a software problem!
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Please contact your hardware vendor
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>> I realize that the linux kernel may be entirely blameless in this
>> situation,
>
> It is, like mcelog told you.
>
>> but I'd like to have some peer insight before I run after
>> vendors.
>
> It unfortunately turns out that mcelog logging is a tricky
> psychological problem. How should the warning above have
> looked like so that you would not have required "peer insight"
> and actually just contacted your hardware vendor?
I suppose mcelog might be extended to point at possible tools to get a
second opinion, in case the admin would like to to be entirely
certain. In their position I can understand them when their vendor
asks them if it's the hardware and what tests they've run to rule out
software.
Think for example a machine check that might point to faulty RAM, it
might direct the admin to run memcheck if mcelog alone isn't
compelling enough.
> Thank you.
>
> -Andi (who wonders if <blink> tags in syslog would be useful
> to solve this)
Yikes, ixnay to the <blinkay>. Next people will ask for flash support
to get all-singing and -dancing error messages.
-- Jeroen.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-08 11:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-07 2:32 Tony Vroon
2008-09-07 3:16 ` Jeroen van Rijn
2008-09-07 4:22 ` Tony Vroon
2008-09-08 10:55 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-08 11:13 ` Jeroen van Rijn [this message]
2008-09-08 12:22 ` Tony Vroon
2008-09-08 14:04 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-08 15:52 ` Tony Vroon
2008-09-08 16:25 ` Jeroen van Rijn
2008-09-08 13:55 ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-08 14:00 ` Andi Kleen
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