From: Jie Zhan <zhanjie9@hisilicon.com>
To: Lifeng Zheng <zhenglifeng1@huawei.com>, <rafael@kernel.org>,
<viresh.kumar@linaro.org>, <mingo@redhat.com>,
<peterz@infradead.org>, <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
<vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>, <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
<bsegall@google.com>, <mgorman@suse.de>, <vschneid@redhat.com>,
<linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<linuxarm@huawei.com>, <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>,
<lihuisong@huawei.com>, <yubowen8@huawei.com>,
<zhangpengjie2@huawei.com>, <wangzhi12@huawei.com>,
<linhongye@h-partners.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] cpufreq: governor: Apply limits with target_freq instead of policy->cur
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2026 20:19:45 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8f50fe29-c2f6-465a-b04a-6eac79ed49dd@hisilicon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260210115458.3493646-1-zhenglifeng1@huawei.com>
On 2/10/2026 7:54 PM, Lifeng Zheng wrote:
> The motivation for this patchset cames from a test on our platform:
>
> With conservative governor and some pressure on CPU, the frequency rapidly
> reach the max supported frequency, such as 2GHz.
>
> Later, some frequency division strategies on our platform were triggered
> and the actual frequency become 500MHz -- 1/4 of the OS distribution
> frequency.
>
> At that time, if someone excecutes 'cat cpuinfo_cur_freq', the actual
> frequency will become 250MHz -- 1/4 of the min supported frequency.
>
> After the platform recovering from the frequency division, the frequency
> will stay on 1GHz, until the pressure disappear.
>
> The reason this happens is that in cpufreq_verify_current_freq(), if
> policy->cur != new_freq, policy->update will be queued, which will
> ultimately lead to a call to cpufreq_policy_apply_limits(), and update the
> target frequency to policy->min. And then in cs_dbs_update(), since the
> pressure never vanish, it will always hit the following branches:
>
> if (load > dbs_data->up_threshold) {
> dbs_info->down_skip = 0;
>
> /* if we are already at full speed then break out early */
> if (requested_freq == policy->max)
> goto out;
>
> Therefore, the target frequency will always remain at the lowest frequency.
I feel like this is a common issue that some special handling in the
governor should happen when the frequency limits changes, i.e.
governor->limits() gets called. See 'limits_changed' or 'need_freq_update'
in the schedutil governor.
Do you think it's reasonable to mark such a flag in 'cpufreq_policy' when
its limits changes, and any governor can use that for their own code?
Jie
>
> The branching conditions in cs_dbs_update() may not be strict enough, but
> the root cause of this problem is that the target frequency was updated
> when querying cpuinfo_cur_freq. For ondemand and schedutil governor,
> although the frequency will not always remain at the lowest level without
> rising, will still be min_freq in a short period of time when the query
> action occurs.
>
> Using the freq requested by the governor to decide whether to update the
> target frequency is more reasonable in cpufreq_policy_apply_limits().
>
> Lifeng Zheng (2):
> cpufreq: governor: Move requested_freq to policy_dbs_info
> cpufreq: governor: Apply limits with requested_freq or next_freq
>
> drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_conservative.c | 14 ++++----------
> drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_governor.c | 3 ++-
> drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_governor.h | 12 ++++++++++++
> drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_ondemand.c | 10 +++++-----
> include/linux/cpufreq.h | 7 ++++---
> kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c | 4 ++--
> 6 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-05 12:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-10 11:54 Lifeng Zheng
2026-02-10 11:54 ` [PATCH 1/2] cpufreq: governor: Move requested_freq to policy_dbs_info Lifeng Zheng
2026-02-10 11:54 ` [PATCH 2/2] cpufreq: governor: Apply limits with requested_freq or next_freq Lifeng Zheng
2026-03-05 6:21 ` Viresh Kumar
2026-03-06 4:08 ` zhenglifeng (A)
2026-03-05 12:19 ` Jie Zhan [this message]
2026-03-06 9:21 ` [PATCH 0/2] cpufreq: governor: Apply limits with target_freq instead of policy->cur zhenglifeng (A)
2026-03-10 3:14 ` Jie Zhan
2026-03-09 8:27 ` Viresh Kumar
2026-03-09 12:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-03-10 2:22 ` zhenglifeng (A)
2026-03-10 4:29 ` Viresh Kumar
2026-03-10 13:11 ` zhenglifeng (A)
2026-03-12 6:16 ` Viresh Kumar
2026-03-13 3:51 ` zhenglifeng (A)
2026-03-13 6:05 ` Viresh Kumar
2026-03-13 10:12 ` zhenglifeng (A)
2026-03-17 6:20 ` Viresh Kumar
2026-03-17 8:26 ` zhenglifeng (A)
2026-03-17 10:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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