From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
ashok.raj@intel.com, jacob.jun.pan@intel.com, alan.cox@intel.com,
kevin.tian@intel.com, mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com,
pengfei.xu@intel.com,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/10] swiotlb: Factor out slot allocation and free
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 12:06:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <90182d27-5764-7676-8ca6-b2773a40cfe1@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <93b3d627-782d-cae0-2175-77a5a8b3fe6e@linux.intel.com>
On 29/04/2019 06:10, Lu Baolu wrote:
> Hi Christoph,
>
> On 4/26/19 11:04 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 10:07:19AM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
>>> This is not VT-d specific. It's just how generic IOMMU works.
>>>
>>> Normally, IOMMU works in paging mode. So if a driver issues DMA with
>>> IOVA 0xAAAA0123, IOMMU can remap it with a physical address 0xBBBB0123.
>>> But we should never expect IOMMU to remap 0xAAAA0123 with physical
>>> address of 0xBBBB0000. That's the reason why I said that IOMMU will not
>>> work there.
>>
>> Well, with the iommu it doesn't happen. With swiotlb it obviosuly
>> can happen, so drivers are fine with it. Why would that suddenly
>> become an issue when swiotlb is called from the iommu code?
>>
>
> I would say IOMMU is DMA remapping, not DMA engine. :-)
I'm not sure I really follow the issue here - if we're copying the
buffer to the bounce page(s) there's no conceptual difference from
copying it to SWIOTLB slot(s), so there should be no need to worry about
the original in-page offset.
From the reply up-thread I guess you're trying to include an
optimisation to only copy the head and tail of the buffer if it spans
multiple pages, and directly map the ones in the middle, but AFAICS
that's going to tie you to also using strict mode for TLB maintenance,
which may not be a win overall depending on the balance between
invalidation bandwidth vs. memcpy bandwidth. At least if we use standard
SWIOTLB logic to always copy the whole thing, we should be able to
release the bounce pages via the flush queue to allow 'safe' lazy unmaps.
Either way I think it would be worth just implementing the
straightforward version first, then coming back to consider
optimisations later.
Robin.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-04-29 11:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-04-21 1:17 [PATCH v3 00/10] iommu: Bounce page for untrusted devices Lu Baolu
2019-04-21 1:17 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] iommu: Add helper to get minimal page size of domain Lu Baolu
2019-04-29 10:55 ` Robin Murphy
2019-04-30 0:40 ` Lu Baolu
2019-04-21 1:17 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] swiotlb: Factor out slot allocation and free Lu Baolu
2019-04-22 16:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-04-23 1:58 ` Lu Baolu
2019-04-23 6:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-04-23 7:32 ` Lu Baolu
2019-04-24 14:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-04-25 2:07 ` Lu Baolu
2019-04-26 15:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-04-29 5:10 ` Lu Baolu
2019-04-29 11:06 ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2019-04-29 11:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-05-06 1:54 ` Lu Baolu
2019-05-13 7:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-05-16 1:53 ` Lu Baolu
2019-04-30 2:02 ` Lu Baolu
2019-04-30 9:53 ` Robin Murphy
2019-05-02 1:47 ` Lu Baolu
2019-04-21 1:17 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] swiotlb: Limit tlb address range inside slot pool Lu Baolu
2019-04-21 1:17 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] swiotlb: Extend swiotlb to support page bounce Lu Baolu
2019-04-21 1:17 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] iommu: Add bounce page APIs Lu Baolu
2019-04-21 1:17 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] iommu/vt-d: Add trace events for domain map/unmap Lu Baolu
2019-04-21 1:17 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] iommu/vt-d: Keep swiotlb on if bounce page is necessary Lu Baolu
2019-04-22 16:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-04-23 2:00 ` Lu Baolu
2019-04-21 1:17 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] iommu/vt-d: Check whether device requires bounce buffer Lu Baolu
2019-04-22 16:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-04-23 2:03 ` Lu Baolu
2019-04-23 6:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-04-23 7:35 ` Lu Baolu
2019-04-24 18:27 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2019-04-21 1:17 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] iommu/vt-d: Add dma sync ops for untrusted devices Lu Baolu
2019-04-21 1:17 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] iommu/vt-d: Use bounce buffer " Lu Baolu
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