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From: Luis Machado <luis.machado@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	bristot@redhat.com, vschneid@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kprateek.nayak@amd.com,
	wuyun.abel@bytedance.com, tglx@linutronix.de, efault@gmx.de,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	Hongyan.Xia2@arm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 08/10] sched/fair: Implement delayed dequeue
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 16:08:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9098c152-c618-4e0f-ab59-0cec5cdb3e5b@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240605094231.GR26599@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 6/5/24 10:42, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 05, 2024 at 10:14:47AM +0100, Luis Machado wrote:
>> ... thanks for the patch! The above seems to do it for me. I can see
>> more reasonable energy use with the eevdf-complete series. Still a
>> bit higher. Might be noise, we'll see.
> 
> W00t!!!
> 
> Let me write a decent Changelog and stuff it in the git tree along with
> all the other bits.
> 
> Thanks for all the testing.

I've been doing some more testing of the eevdf-complete series with
the Pixel6/EAS platform. Hopefully these numbers will prove useful.

The energy regression from the original delayed-dequeue patch seems to
have been mostly fixed (with your proposed patch). Energy readings for
the big and mid cores are mostly stable and comparable with stock eevdf
(without eevdf-complete).

The only difference I can spot now is in the energy use of the little
cores. Compared to stock eevdf, the delayed-dequeue code seems to make
the energy use of the little cores a bit spiky, meaning sometimes we get
the expected level of energy use, but other times we get 40%, 60% or
even 90% more.

For instance...


(1) m6.6-eevdf-stock*: stock eevdf runs
(2) m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz*: eevdf-complete + NO_DELAY_DEQUEUE + DELAY_ZERO
(3) m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz*: eevdf-complete + DELAY_DEQUEUE + DELAY_ZERO

+------------+---------------------------------+-----------+
|  channel   |                      tag        | perc_diff |
+------------+---------------------------------+-----------+
| CPU-Little |  m6.6-eevdf-stock-1             |   0.0%    |
| CPU-Little |  m6.6-eevdf-stock-2             |  -4.21%   |
| CPU-Little |  m6.6-eevdf-stock-3             |  -7.86%   |
| CPU-Little |  m6.6-eevdf-stock-4             |  -5.67%   |
| CPU-Little |  m6.6-eevdf-stock-5             |  -6.61%   |
| CPU-Little |  m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-1   |  -2.21%   |
| CPU-Little |  m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-2   |  -9.99%   |
| CPU-Little |  m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-3   |   -6.1%   |
| CPU-Little |  m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-4   |  -5.66%   |
| CPU-Little |  m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-5   |  -7.12%   |
| CPU-Little |  m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-1    |  96.69%   |
| CPU-Little |  m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-2    |   22.1%   |
| CPU-Little |  m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-3    |  44.82%   |
| CPU-Little |  m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-4    |  -0.23%   |
| CPU-Little |  m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-5    |   8.28%   |
+------------+---------------------------------+-----------+

Looking at what might explain the spiky behavior with DELAY_DEQUEUE, I
noticed the idle residency data (we have 2 idle states) also shows some
spikyness and potential clues.

Looks like (1) and (2) manage to switch to idle states in a consistent
manner, whereas (3) seems a bit erratic and more prone to take a
shallower idle state (idle 0) as opposed to a deeper idle state (idle 1).

(1) and (2) seem to make better use of the deeper idle state.

+-------------------------------+---------+------------+-------+
|            tag                | cluster | idle_state | time  |
+-------------------------------+---------+------------+-------+
| m6.6-eevdf-stock-1            | little  |  not idle  | 63.49 |
| m6.6-eevdf-stock-1            | little  |   idle 0   | 30.66 |
| m6.6-eevdf-stock-1            | little  |   idle 1   | 12.15 |
| m6.6-eevdf-stock-2            | little  |  not idle  | 62.6  |
| m6.6-eevdf-stock-2            | little  |   idle 0   | 31.13 |
| m6.6-eevdf-stock-2            | little  |   idle 1   | 14.56 |
| m6.6-eevdf-stock-3            | little  |  not idle  | 63.98 |
| m6.6-eevdf-stock-3            | little  |   idle 0   | 31.54 |
| m6.6-eevdf-stock-3            | little  |   idle 1   | 15.91 |
| m6.6-eevdf-stock-4            | little  |  not idle  | 64.18 |
| m6.6-eevdf-stock-4            | little  |   idle 0   | 31.32 |
| m6.6-eevdf-stock-4            | little  |   idle 1   | 15.83 |
| m6.6-eevdf-stock-5            | little  |  not idle  | 63.32 |
| m6.6-eevdf-stock-5            | little  |   idle 0   | 30.4  |
| m6.6-eevdf-stock-5            | little  |   idle 1   | 14.33 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-1  | little  |  not idle  | 62.62 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-1  | little  |   idle 0   | 29.48 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-1  | little  |   idle 1   | 13.19 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-2  | little  |  not idle  | 64.12 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-2  | little  |   idle 0   | 27.62 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-2  | little  |   idle 1   | 14.73 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-3  | little  |  not idle  | 62.86 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-3  | little  |   idle 0   | 27.87 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-3  | little  |   idle 1   | 14.97 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-4  | little  |  not idle  | 63.01 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-4  | little  |   idle 0   | 28.2  |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-4  | little  |   idle 1   | 14.11 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-5  | little  |  not idle  | 62.1  |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-5  | little  |   idle 0   | 29.06 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-ndd-dz-5  | little  |   idle 1   | 14.73 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-1   | little  |  not idle  | 46.18 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-1   | little  |   idle 0   | 53.78 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-1   | little  |   idle 1   | 3.75  |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-2   | little  |  not idle  | 57.64 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-2   | little  |   idle 0   | 40.47 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-2   | little  |   idle 1   | 7.39  |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-3   | little  |  not idle  | 43.14 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-3   | little  |   idle 0   | 57.73 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-3   | little  |   idle 1   | 3.65  |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-4   | little  |  not idle  | 58.97 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-4   | little  |   idle 0   | 36.4  |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-4   | little  |   idle 1   | 9.42  |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-5   | little  |  not idle  | 55.85 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-5   | little  |   idle 0   | 36.75 |
| m6.6-eevdf-complete-dd-dz-5   | little  |   idle 1   | 13.14 |
+-------------------------------+---------+------------+-------+

I can't draw a precise conclusion, but it might be down to delayed util_est
updates or even the additional time the delayed-dequeue tasks spend on the
runqueue. But delayed-dequeue does change the overall behavior a bit on
these heterogeneous platforms, energy-wise.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-12 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-05 10:27 [RFC][PATCH 00/10] sched/fair: Complete EEVDF Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-05 10:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/10] sched/eevdf: Add feature comments Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-05 10:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/10] sched/eevdf: Remove min_vruntime_copy Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-05 10:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/10] sched/fair: Cleanup pick_task_fair() vs throttle Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-05 21:11   ` Benjamin Segall
2024-04-05 10:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/10] sched/fair: Cleanup pick_task_fair()s curr Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-05 10:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/10] sched/fair: Unify pick_{,next_}_task_fair() Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-06  2:20   ` Mike Galbraith
2024-04-05 10:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/10] sched: Allow sched_class::dequeue_task() to fail Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-05 10:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/10] sched/fair: Re-organize dequeue_task_fair() Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-05 10:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/10] sched/fair: Implement delayed dequeue Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-06  9:23   ` Chen Yu
2024-04-08  9:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-11  1:32       ` Yan-Jie Wang
2024-04-25 10:25         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-12 10:42   ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-04-15 10:56     ` Mike Galbraith
2024-04-16  3:18       ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-04-16  5:36         ` Mike Galbraith
2024-04-18 16:24           ` Mike Galbraith
2024-04-18 17:08             ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-04-24 15:20             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-25 11:28             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-26 10:56               ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-26 11:16                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-26 16:03                   ` Mike Galbraith
2024-04-27  6:42                     ` Mike Galbraith
2024-04-28 16:32                       ` Mike Galbraith
2024-04-29 12:14                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-15 17:07   ` Luis Machado
2024-04-24 15:15     ` Luis Machado
2024-04-25 10:42       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-25 11:49         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-26  9:32           ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-26  9:36             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-26 10:16             ` Luis Machado
2024-04-29 14:33             ` Luis Machado
2024-05-02 10:26               ` Luis Machado
2024-05-10 14:49                 ` Luis Machado
2024-05-15  9:36                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-15 11:48                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-15 18:03                       ` Mike Galbraith
2024-05-20 15:20                       ` Luis Machado
2024-05-29 22:50                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-03 19:30                   ` Luis Machado
2024-06-04 10:11                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-04 13:59                       ` Hongyan Xia
2024-06-04 14:23                       ` Luis Machado
2024-06-04 14:49                         ` Hongyan Xia
2024-06-04 19:12                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-05  7:22                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-05  9:14                             ` Luis Machado
2024-06-05  9:42                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-12 15:08                                 ` Luis Machado [this message]
2024-05-23  8:45               ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-23  9:06                 ` Luis Machado
2024-05-23  9:33                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-03 15:57                     ` Hongyan Xia
2024-04-26 10:15         ` Luis Machado
2024-04-20  5:57   ` Mike Galbraith
2024-04-22 13:13   ` Tobias Huschle
     [not found]   ` <CA44DAC1-B01A-4208-B9A0-D824E8178974@oracle.com>
2024-07-02 13:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-05 10:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/10] sched/eevdf: Allow shorter slices to wakeup-preempt Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-05 10:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/10] sched/eevdf: Use sched_attr::sched_runtime to set request/slice suggestion Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-06  8:16   ` Hillf Danton
2024-05-07  5:34   ` Mike Galbraith
2024-05-15 10:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-07 15:15   ` Chen Yu
2024-05-08 13:52     ` Mike Galbraith
2024-05-09  3:48       ` Chen Yu
2024-05-09  5:00         ` Mike Galbraith
2024-05-13  4:07     ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-05-14  9:18       ` Chen Yu
2024-05-14 15:23         ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-05-14 16:15           ` Chen Yu
2024-05-22 14:48           ` Chen Yu
2024-05-27 10:11 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/10] sched/fair: Complete EEVDF K Prateek Nayak

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