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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 11/12] x86/mm/tlb: Use async and inline messages for flushing
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 14:06:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <90a891a2-6be4-bfa2-5de1-5e36d1bc0b48@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVf9dh4GxEXsHbP65x6YuzOBf+7HWqOgBBjUma+7nB6Nw@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/31/19 1:37 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> Modulo bugs^Werrata...  No.  What actually happens is that a
>> try-to-set-dirty-bit page table walk acts just like a TLB miss.  The old
>> contents of the TLB are discarded and only the in-memory contents matter
>> for forward progress.  If Present=0 when the PTE is reached, you'll get
>> a normal Present=0 page fault.
> Wait, does that mean that you can do a lock cmpxchg or similar to
> clear the dirty and writable bits together and, if the dirty bit was
> clear, skip the TLB flush?

Yeah, in the case that you're going from R/W->R/O, you can be assured
that no writable TLB entries were established if D=0.

Is it totally safe against other things?  Hell if I know. :)

I'd want to go look very closely at software things like GUP-for-write
before we went and actually did this.  But I can't think of any hardware
reasons off the top of my head why it wouldn't work.

A quick perusal of the SDM didn't have any slam dunks do support doing
this.  It's a bit cagey about exactly what can be cached and when.  The
supporting reasoning might have escaped my quick scan, though.

> If so, nifty!  Modulo errata, of course. And I seem to remember some
> exceptions relating to CET shadow stack involving the dirty bit being
> set on not-present pages.

Yeah: "no processor that supports CET will ever set the dirty flag in a
paging-structure entry in which the R/W flag is 0"

> https://software.intel.com/sites/default/files/managed/4d/2a/control-flow-enforcement-technology-preview.pdf

Which probably means that the things we were saying above are
technically only architectural on CET-enabled processors.  I think the
behavior is actually much more widespread than that, though.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-05-31 21:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-31  6:36 [RFC PATCH v2 00/12] x86: Flush remote TLBs concurrently and async Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/12] smp: Remove smp_call_function() and on_each_cpu() return values Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/12] smp: Run functions concurrently in smp_call_function_many() Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/12] x86/mm/tlb: Refactor common code into flush_tlb_on_cpus() Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/12] x86/mm/tlb: Flush remote and local TLBs concurrently Nadav Amit
2019-05-31 11:48   ` Juergen Gross
2019-05-31 19:44     ` Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/12] x86/mm/tlb: Optimize local TLB flushes Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/12] KVM: x86: Provide paravirtualized flush_tlb_multi() Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/12] smp: Do not mark call_function_data as shared Nadav Amit
2019-05-31 10:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 17:50     ` Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/12] x86/tlb: Privatize cpu_tlbstate Nadav Amit
2019-05-31 18:48   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-31 19:42     ` Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/12] x86/apic: Use non-atomic operations when possible Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/12] smp: Enable data inlining for inter-processor function call Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/12] x86/mm/tlb: Use async and inline messages for flushing Nadav Amit
2019-05-31 10:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 18:29     ` Nadav Amit
2019-05-31 19:20       ` Jann Horn
2019-05-31 20:04         ` Nadav Amit
2019-05-31 20:37           ` Jann Horn
2019-05-31 18:44     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-31 19:31       ` Nadav Amit
2019-05-31 20:13         ` Dave Hansen
2019-05-31 20:37           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-31 20:42             ` Nadav Amit
2019-05-31 21:06             ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2019-05-31 21:14   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-31 21:33     ` Nadav Amit
2019-05-31 21:47       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-31 22:07         ` Nadav Amit
2019-06-07  5:28           ` Nadav Amit
2019-06-07 16:42             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/12] x86/mm/tlb: Reverting the removal of flush_tlb_info from stack Nadav Amit

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