From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752090Ab2KFFbG (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Nov 2012 00:31:06 -0500 Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu ([198.82.162.213]:52712 "EHLO lennier.cc.vt.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751296Ab2KFFbE (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Nov 2012 00:31:04 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.4-dev To: Ove Karlsen Cc: Thomas Gleixner , LKML , linux-rt-users Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.5-rt14 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 03 Nov 2012 20:04:58 +0100." <50956ADA.6090108@paradoxuncreated.com> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: <50956ADA.6090108@paradoxuncreated.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1352179845_2044P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 00:30:45 -0500 Message-ID: <91465.1352179845@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mirapoint-Received-SPF: 198.82.161.152 auth3.smtp.vt.edu Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu 2 pass X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=steiner.cc.vt.edu X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A020205.5098A086.0113,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=single engine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --==_Exmh_1352179845_2044P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 20:04:58 +0100, Ove Karlsen said: > And have you given consideration to the fact that most distros and OS=20 > grow with some levels of bloat, and everyone can=60t be an expert, so=20 > maybe one shold consider a (scheduler) queue for =22bloat=22, and one q= ueue=20 > for main app, so that even bloated distros can run with the jitteramoun= t=20 > of a highly specialized distro? (for instance=20 > mainapp,service1,mainapp,service2,mainapp,service3), if bloat is on=20 > queue 2. Or is thins kind of thinking already in batch, or idle? So how does the kernel know which one is your =22main app=22, and which o= ne is =22bloat=22? Hint - you can't base it on =22the main app is the one usin= g OpenGL=22 or similar rule, as there may be multiple processes doing that, and you may consider one of them to be bloat - and *I* might consider that one to be = the *important* one. Or even your definition may change around during the da= y - if you're running Doom3, an OpenGL-capable window manager is probably =22blo= at=22, but once you exit Doom3 and start working with multiple windows again, sudden= ly you're going to want that window manager to be the =22important=22 proces= s again... --==_Exmh_1352179845_2044P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iQIVAwUBUJighQdmEQWDXROgAQK9ng/6Amp9eaAM5NqiLh/yzTjOideXGLkd9MOc iicwG62XI9v0XPLE8loYQ9jFk2xuTeQCO0WjQBWI8vUR3yhBIVKY7qTsSAgmQYES DjpZe1vsUSXsdugU9Ce2ku7lrTFceVEE5HFG0gDdiZaqwd6FEc9eQs+V2W1JXIXR 7G2G7w8S7hlN+4Bi7nJSHF7sRZx6XTDrMfw+h/TYca9UL8Shnbwg4qsCNmJxbhtR tL39TMWf1lAoDxKGBke51mRPdevwpn0wbWgNOdZqk+mFIGbl5XXKB88bD29T3Q2+ kRZmXyx7x8qlDFO4PQPieYEfnE84x5U+5fWMqqJZ8DF2A+H/Px91JVisNzPLvutV dZIfvXT7V3E7ZGMGM62bQ6LHjM9Xa2+5No54jrf6+tpBz5VZp9vGS6ysADQaXCvD /MQE8RXycrQwA3EqhYKJnwunYcw0+vaf9A71JfPVm628oMxDriA1JhHaBFitlOoI jG/bQJnieIDdUkRy8iT5KorgSonlXl+gvW1nOFgZU3U48PJzfdR2U4YMbyyPfPWa 3Je4LSLo8nmQhB094DUJM67FM5PZxkeHWhYKHpJ+vcRWPTDwmBJt7SLEGx3AizRT ILu+eIVIvA5GCPB1FvMJ1s9O/wNGY3uy57wBXEXbqRjTLSFZ0eKN8xdtpivgPaLc iVLZLTz98vc= =2jMx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1352179845_2044P--