From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Doug Smythies <dsmythies@telus.net>, <mingo@kernel.org>,
<juri.lelli@redhat.com>, <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
<rostedt@goodmis.org>, <bsegall@google.com>, <mgorman@suse.de>,
<vschneid@redhat.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<wangtao554@huawei.com>, <quzicheng@huawei.com>,
<wuyun.abel@bytedance.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] sched: Various reweight_entity() fixes
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2026 11:34:56 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <914c1bc5-e0e3-46d9-85e9-03dcbdbf0278@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260212192911.GM1395416@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Hello Peter,
On 2/13/2026 12:59 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2026 at 06:16:11PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2026 at 12:59:43PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2026 at 01:13:30PM +0530, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
>>
>>>> Enqueue cfs_rq: depth(1) weight(2144337920) nr_queued(2045) sum_w_vruntime(18343811230990336) sum_weight(2144337920) zero_vruntime(18337852274) sum_shift(0) avg_vruntime(18337852274)
>>>> Dequeue cfs_rq: depth(1) weight(2144337920) nr_queued(2045) sum_w_vruntime(1303379968) sum_weight(2143289344) zero_vruntime(18354971669) sum_shift(0) avg_vruntime(18354971669)
>>
>> After staring at waaay too many traces of my own, which confirm what
>> you're seeing, but didn't want to make any sense either...
>>
>> ... I thinks I found it ...
>>
>> Note that sum_weight, that has _just_ flipped bit 31 and thus turned
>> negative *if* it were a 32bit number. Every time, exactly at this point
>> things started to go sideways.
>>
>> So I went looking for where this might be and I found the below.
>>
>> My latest run has passed 0x8000000/(1024*1024) = 2048 tasks and is still
>> running. Numbers are still sane, fingers crossed.
>>
>
> I made it all the way to 3k tasks on the one CPU and all is well.
So the current peterz:sched/core refused to boot to prompt for (hopefully
it is just you forgetting to push out the latest branch ;-)
I have the following situation:
Pick failed to find eligible entities. Dumping cfs_rq
cfs_rq: depth(0) weight(3145728) nr_queued(3) sum_w_vruntime(-3074459814163644416) sum_weight(3145728) zero_vruntime(18446688365342623754) sum_shift(0)
cfs_rq after avg_vruntime(): sum_w_vruntime(1048576) sum_weight(3145728) zero_vruntime(18446687387998169890) avg_vruntime(18446687387998169890)
se: weight(1048576) vruntime(18446691297375985345) slice(700000) deadline(18446691297376644150) curr?(1) task?(1) se_depth(0) eligible?(1)
se: weight(1048576) vruntime(18446682501282949076) slice(700000) deadline(18446682501283649076) curr?(0) task?(1) se_depth(0) eligible?(0)
se: weight(1048576) vruntime(18446688365342622487) slice(700000) deadline(18446688365342972487) curr?(0) task?(1) se_depth(0) eligible?(0)
se: weight(1048576) vruntime(18446691297368938108) slice(700000) deadline(18446691297369619108) curr?(0) task?(1) se_depth(0) eligible?(1)
Note: sum_w_vruntime grows pretty large before but on calling
avg_vruntime(), things are back to normal.
Since this is so early into the boot I traced the heck out of
it and one of the observation was how the sum_weight() keeps
growing from the initial zero_vruntime:
Legend: '|' is a place_entity(), "->" is enqueue, "<-" is dequeue.
If the line contains "*" it is "before" the action.
Without the "*" is "after" the action.
Line with only "cfs_rq" line before and after avg_vruntime() in entity_tick()
vruntime: CPU(0) se vruntime(18446744073708503040) vlag(0) deadline(0) | cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(0) sum_weight(0) zero_vruntime(18446744073708503040)
vruntime: CPU(0) *se vruntime(18446744073708503040) vlag(0) deadline(18446744073708853040) -> cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(0) sum_weight(0) zero_vruntime(18446744073708503040)
vruntime: CPU(0) se vruntime(18446744073708503040) vlag(0) deadline(18446744073708853040) -> cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(0) sum_weight(1048576) zero_vruntime(18446744073708503040)
vruntime: CPU(0) se vruntime(18446744073708503040) vlag(0) deadline(0) | cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(0) sum_weight(1048576) zero_vruntime(18446744073708503040)
vruntime: CPU(0) *se vruntime(18446744073708503040) vlag(0) deadline(18446744073708853040) -> cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(0) sum_weight(1048576) zero_vruntime(18446744073708503040)
vruntime: CPU(0) se vruntime(18446744073708503040) vlag(0) deadline(18446744073708853040) -> cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(0) sum_weight(2097152) zero_vruntime(18446744073708503040)
vruntime: CPU(0) *se vruntime(18446744073708503040) vlag(0) deadline(18446744073708853040) <- cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(0) sum_weight(2097152) zero_vruntime(18446744073708503040)
vruntime: CPU(0) se vruntime(18446744073708503040) vlag(0) deadline(18446744073708853040) <- cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(0) sum_weight(1048576) zero_vruntime(18446744073708503040)
vruntime: CPU(0) *cfs_rq: cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(0) sum_weight(1048576) zero_vruntime(18446744073708503040)
At this point:
curr->vruntime = 951329; /* should be same as computed avg */
u64 zero_vruntime = (u64)(-1048576LL); /* From init */
s64 sum_w_vruntime = 0;
s64 delta = curr->vruntime - cfs_rq->zero_vruntime = 1999905; /* Net positive. */
sum_w_vruntime -= 1999905 * sum_weight;
sum_w_vruntime = -2097052385280; /* Checks out! */
vruntime: CPU(0) cfs_rq: cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(-2097052385280) sum_weight(1048576) zero_vruntime(951329) avg_vruntime(951329)
After this point all delta are positive and we keep
subtracting from sum_w_vruntime.
vruntime: CPU(0) *cfs_rq: cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(-2097052385280) sum_weight(1048576) zero_vruntime(951329)
vruntime: CPU(0) cfs_rq: cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(-4194182365184) sum_weight(1048576) zero_vruntime(2951308) avg_vruntime(2951308)
vruntime: CPU(0) *cfs_rq: cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(-4194182365184) sum_weight(1048576) zero_vruntime(2951308)
vruntime: CPU(0) cfs_rq: cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(-6291298713600) sum_weight(1048576) zero_vruntime(4951274) avg_vruntime(4951274)
vruntime: CPU(0) *cfs_rq: cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(-6291298713600) sum_weight(1048576) zero_vruntime(4951274)
vruntime: CPU(0) cfs_rq: cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(-8388566056960) sum_weight(1048576) zero_vruntime(6951384) avg_vruntime(6951384)
vruntime: CPU(0) *cfs_rq: cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(-8388566056960) sum_weight(1048576) zero_vruntime(6951384)
vruntime: CPU(0) cfs_rq: cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(-10485571256320) sum_weight(1048576) zero_vruntime(8951244) avg_vruntime(8951244)
vruntime: CPU(0) *cfs_rq: cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(-10485571256320) sum_weight(1048576) zero_vruntime(8951244)
vruntime: CPU(0) cfs_rq: cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(-12582749470720) sum_weight(1048576) zero_vruntime(10951269) avg_vruntime(10951269)
vruntime: CPU(0) *cfs_rq: cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(-12582749470720) sum_weight(1048576) zero_vruntime(10951269)
vruntime: CPU(0) cfs_rq: cfs_rq sum_w_vruntime(-14680032542720) sum_weight(1048576) zero_vruntime(12951394) avg_vruntime(12951394)
I still haven't found how we end up at a situation where avg_vruntime
is close to -56685711381726LL at the time of crash :-(
Will update if I find something.
--
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-13 6:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-30 9:34 Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-30 9:34 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched/fair: Only set slice protection at pick time Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-30 15:52 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-01-30 9:34 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched/eevdf: Update se->vprot in reweight_entity() Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-30 16:20 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-01-30 9:34 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched/fair: Increase weight bits for avg_vruntime Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-30 9:34 ` [PATCH 4/4] sched/fair: Revert 6d71a9c61604 ("sched/fair: Fix EEVDF entity placement bug causing scheduling lag") Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-31 1:47 ` Zhang Qiao
2026-01-31 15:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 9:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 9:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 11:23 ` Zhang Qiao
2026-02-01 17:13 ` [PATCH 0/4] sched: Various reweight_entity() fixes Doug Smythies
2026-02-03 6:45 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-03 11:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-03 12:19 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-03 16:36 ` Doug Smythies
2026-02-10 18:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-11 5:51 ` Doug Smythies
2026-02-04 10:15 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-09 15:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-09 16:52 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-10 5:16 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-10 10:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-10 15:41 ` Doug Smythies
2026-02-10 18:09 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-10 18:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-10 20:04 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-11 6:28 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-11 8:50 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-11 23:09 ` Doug Smythies
2026-02-10 18:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-10 20:52 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-02-11 5:21 ` Doug Smythies
2026-02-11 8:49 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-02-11 9:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-11 10:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-11 10:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-11 11:15 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-02-11 16:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-12 7:43 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-12 11:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-12 17:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-12 17:24 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-02-12 19:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-13 5:22 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-13 6:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-13 10:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-13 14:29 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-14 6:31 ` Doug Smythies
2026-02-21 22:51 ` Doug Smythies
2026-02-12 19:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-12 19:37 ` Doug Smythies
2026-02-13 6:04 ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2026-02-11 16:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-12 5:54 ` Doug Smythies
2026-02-12 7:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-12 15:47 ` Doug Smythies
2026-02-12 7:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-11 23:25 ` Doug Smythies
2026-02-11 8:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-04 10:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-14 7:20 ` Shubhang Kaushik
2026-02-16 3:14 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-16 10:59 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-02-17 14:37 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-02-17 22:02 ` Shubhang Kaushik
2026-02-17 4:20 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 18:37 ` Shubhang Kaushik
2026-02-19 7:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
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