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From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"Libo Chen" <libo.chen@oracle.com>,
	Abel Wu <wuyun.abel@bytedance.com>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
	"Zhao Liu" <zhao1.liu@intel.com>,
	Vinicius Costa Gomes <vinicius.gomes@intel.com>,
	Arjan Van De Ven <arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] sched: Fix sched domain build error for GNR, CWF in SNC-3 mode
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2025 10:38:12 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <91ab8136-64f3-45e3-9fec-567aab193353@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <208a0a8278a28521e7bbc5114cf9899d31875d15.1757614784.git.tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>

Hello Tim,

On 9/12/2025 12:00 AM, Tim Chen wrote:
> It is possible for Granite Rapids (GNR) and Clearwater Forest
> (CWF) to have up to 3 dies per package. When sub-numa cluster (SNC-3)
> is enabled, each die will become a separate NUMA node in the package
> with different distances between dies within the same package.
> 
> For example, on GNR, we see the following numa distances for a 2 socket
> system with 3 dies per socket:
> 
>     package 1       package2
> 	----------------
> 	|               |
>     ---------       ---------
>     |   0   |       |   3   |
>     ---------       ---------
> 	|               |
>     ---------       ---------
>     |   1   |       |   4   |
>     ---------       ---------
> 	|               |
>     ---------       ---------
>     |   2   |       |   5   |
>     ---------       ---------
> 	|               |
> 	----------------
> 
> node distances:
> node     0    1    2    3    4    5
> 0:   	10   15   17   21   28   26
> 1:   	15   10   15   23   26   23
> 2:   	17   15   10   26   23   21
> 3:   	21   28   26   10   15   17
> 4:   	23   26   23   15   10   15
> 5:   	26   23   21   17   15   10
> 
> The node distances above led to 2 problems:
> 
> 1. Asymmetric routes taken between nodes in different packages led to
> asymmetric scheduler domain perspective depending on which node you
> are on.  Current scheduler code failed to build domains properly with
> asymmetric distances.
> 
> 2. Multiple remote distances to respective tiles on remote package create
> too many levels of domain hierarchies grouping different nodes between
> remote packages.
> 
> For example, the above GNR-X topology lead to NUMA domains below:
> 
> Sched domains from the perspective of a CPU in node 0, where the number
> in bracket represent node number.
> 
> NUMA-level 1    [0,1] [2]
> NUMA-level 2    [0,1,2] [3]
> NUMA-level 3    [0,1,2,3] [5]
> NUMA-level 4    [0,1,2,3,5] [4]
> 
> Sched domains from the perspective of a CPU in node 4
> NUMA-level 1    [4] [3,5]
> NUMA-level 2    [3,4,5] [0,2]
> NUMA-level 3    [0,2,3,4,5] [1]
> 
> Scheduler group peers for load balancing from the perspective of CPU 0
> and 4 are different.  Improper task could be chosen for load balancing
> between groups such as [0,2,3,4,5] [1].  Ideally you should choose nodes
> in 0 or 2 that are in same package as node 1 first.  But instead tasks
> in the remote package node 3, 4, 5 could be chosen with an equal chance
> and could lead to excessive remote package migrations and imbalance of
> load between packages.  We should not group partial remote nodes and
> local nodes together.
> Simplify the remote distances for CWF-X and GNR-X for the purpose of
> sched domains building, which maintains symmetry and leads to a more
> reasonable load balance hierarchy.
> 
> The sched domains from the perspective of a CPU in node 0 NUMA-level 1
> is now
> NUMA-level 1    [0,1] [2]
> NUMA-level 2    [0,1,2] [3,4,5]
> 
> The sched domains from the perspective of a CPU in node 4 NUMA-level 1
> is now
> NUMA-level 1    [4] [3,5]
> NUMA-level 2    [3,4,5] [0,1,2]
> 
> We have the same balancing perspective from node 0 or node 4.  Loads are
> now balanced equally between packages.
> 
> Tested-by: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>
> Co-developed-by: Vinicius Costa Gomes <vinicius.gomes@intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Vinicius Costa Gomes <vinicius.gomes@intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>

Feel free to include:

Reviewed-and-tested-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>

-- 
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek

> ---
>  arch/x86/kernel/smpboot.c | 28 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 28 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/smpboot.c b/arch/x86/kernel/smpboot.c
> index 33e166f6ab12..3f894c525e49 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/smpboot.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/smpboot.c
> @@ -515,6 +515,34 @@ static void __init build_sched_topology(void)
>  	set_sched_topology(topology);
>  }
>  
> +int arch_sched_node_distance(int from, int to)
> +{
> +	int d = node_distance(from, to);
> +
> +	if (!x86_has_numa_in_package)
> +		return d;
> +
> +	switch (boot_cpu_data.x86_vfm) {
> +	case INTEL_GRANITERAPIDS_X:
> +	case INTEL_ATOM_DARKMONT_X:
> +		if (d < REMOTE_DISTANCE)
> +			return d;
> +
> +		/*
> +		 * Trim finer distance tuning for nodes in remote package
> +		 * for the purpose of building sched domains.  Put NUMA nodes
> +		 * in each remote package in the same sched group.
> +		 * Simplify NUMA domains and avoid extra NUMA levels including
> +		 * different NUMA nodes in remote packages.
> +		 *
> +		 * GNR and CWF don't expect systmes with more than 2 packages
> +		 * and more than 2 hops between packages.
> +		 */
> +		d = sched_avg_remote_numa_distance;
> +	}
> +	return d;
> +}
> +
>  void set_cpu_sibling_map(int cpu)
>  {
>  	bool has_smt = __max_threads_per_core > 1;


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-12  5:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-11 18:30 [PATCH v3 0/2] Fix NUMA sched domain build errors for GNR and CWF Tim Chen
2025-09-11 18:30 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] sched: Create architecture specific sched domain distances Tim Chen
2025-09-12  3:23   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-15 16:44     ` Tim Chen
2025-09-17  6:45       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-12  5:24   ` Chen, Yu C
2025-09-15 16:49     ` Tim Chen
2025-09-15 17:16     ` Tim Chen
2025-09-15 12:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-15 17:13     ` Tim Chen
2025-09-15 20:04       ` Tim Chen
2025-09-11 18:30 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] sched: Fix sched domain build error for GNR, CWF in SNC-3 mode Tim Chen
2025-09-12  5:08   ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2025-09-15 17:15     ` Tim Chen
2025-09-12  5:39   ` Chen, Yu C
2025-09-12  9:23     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-12 11:59       ` Chen, Yu C
2025-09-15 12:46   ` Peter Zijlstra

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