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From: Mario Limonciello <superm1@kernel.org>
To: "Daniel Gibson" <daniel@gibson.sh>,
	"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Shyam Sundar S K <Shyam-sundar.S-k@amd.com>,
	Hans de Goede <hansg@kernel.org>,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sindre Henriksen <sindrehenriksen93@gmail.com>,
	Hans de Goede <johannes.goede@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/4] platform/x86/amd/pmc: Delay suspend for some Lenovo Laptops
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2026 10:47:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <91af1da1-e2d0-40c1-87b0-452b48f4a2b6@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5b684d9c-2477-488d-a89b-323ca3e51207@gibson.sh>

On 6/9/26 10:36, Daniel Gibson wrote:
> On 09.06.26 17:06, Daniel Gibson wrote:
>> On 09.06.26 16:40, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>>> On 6/9/26 07:07, Daniel Gibson wrote:
>>>> On 09.06.26 13:46, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 9 Jun 2026, Daniel Gibson wrote:
>>>>>>        },
>>>>>> +    /* https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221383 */
>>>>>> +    {
>>>>>> +        .ident = "Zen3-based IdeaPad Slim and similar",
>>>>>> +        .driver_data = &quirk_s2idle_need_suspend_delay,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> One more question.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sashiko noted, that amd_pmc_quirks_init() can overwrite
>>>>> disable_8042_wakeup from the AMD_CPU_ID_CZN check when .driver_data
>>>>> provides quirks. Is it okay in this case to not have .spurious_8042?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good question.
>>>> So far I haven't had complaints that sounded like they'd be related to
>>>> this quirk not being active.
>>>>
>>>> (The only report about things not working as expected on detected
>>>> devices was something about "ACPI event storms" after resume:
>>>> https://github.com/DanielGibson/amd_pmc-ideapad/issues/3 - but no one
>>>> else with similar devices could reproduce that, so no idea what's going
>>>> on there, and it doesn't sound like that IRQ1 issue)
>>>>
>>>> I can test if explicitly enabling .spurious_8042 in
>>>> quirk_s2idle_need_suspend_delay breaks anything on my device, if you
>>>> think that enabling it by default makes more sense?
>>>
>>> Famous last words - but we haven't had a need for spurious 8042 on
>>> recent hardware so I think this is unlikely to be a big problem.
>>
>> FWIW enabling .spurious_8042 didn't break anything on my machine, but
>> didn't improve anything either - only visible difference is that when
>> resuming by pressing a key without that quirk both IRQ1 and IRQ7 are
>> reported as having triggered the resume, and with the quirk only IRQ7 is
>> reported. But it didn't seem like IRQ1 triggers a resume when it shouldn't.
>>
>> OTOH I have a the latest BIOS (from this year), so it's likely fixed
>> there - maybe people with older BIOS versions still need the
>> .spurious_8042 quirk?
>>
>> As these devices are relatively recent and still sold I hope that
>> everyone affected can get a new BIOS (which they should do either way).
> 
> Anyway, overall I'd say that the patches can be merged as they are - the
> affected devices are known to have serious (-ly annoying) suspend
> issues, so it's unlikely that a currently matched devices has working
> suspend that breaks with them, so things at least shouldn't get any
> worse for their users?
> 
> The patches have gotten some testing already on different devices (from
> my out-of-tree patched amd_pmc module on Github) and so far it looks
> like the spurious_8042 quirk isn't needed.
> If reports of needing both quirks turn up after all, that can still be
> easily added in a few lines of code (maybe even just one).
> 
> Cheers,
> Daniel

Even with all that testing; it's only on hardware with problems.
We don't want to have issues exposed by these patches for people that 
didn't need the patches.

So my 2c:
* It's "too risky" to pick up for 7.1 final
* It's a "bit late" in the cycle for 7.2-rc1 (usually new content stops 
being added around rc6).
* This isn't "risky enough" to wait until 7.3 (basically after 7.2-rc1 
merge window is done)

But this has been on the list for a while now, so I would say this makes 
sense to put in for 7.2-rc1 and we should all make sure we test well 
once the RCs are posted.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-09 15:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-09 10:57 [PATCH v5 0/4] amd_pmc: Delay s2idle suspend for some devices Daniel Gibson
2026-06-09 10:57 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] platform/x86/amd/pmc: Check for intermediate wakeup in function Daniel Gibson
2026-06-09 10:57 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] platform/x86/amd/pmc: Delay suspend for some Lenovo Laptops Daniel Gibson
2026-06-09 11:46   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2026-06-09 12:07     ` Daniel Gibson
2026-06-09 14:40       ` Mario Limonciello
2026-06-09 15:06         ` Daniel Gibson
2026-06-09 15:36           ` Daniel Gibson
2026-06-09 15:47             ` Mario Limonciello [this message]
2026-06-10  8:21               ` Ilpo Järvinen
2026-06-10 14:51                 ` Mario Limonciello
2026-06-09 10:57 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] platform/x86/amd/pmc: Add delay_suspend module parameter Daniel Gibson
2026-06-09 10:57 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] platform/x86/amd/pmc: Don't log during intermediate wakeups Daniel Gibson
2026-06-11 14:02   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2026-06-11 14:20     ` Daniel Gibson

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