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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Emil Renner Berthing" <emil.renner.berthing@canonical.com>,
	"Jisheng Zhang" <jszhang@kernel.org>
Cc: Prabhakar <prabhakar.csengg@gmail.com>,
	"Conor.Dooley" <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	guoren <guoren@kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Jones" <ajones@ventanamicro.com>,
	"Paul Walmsley" <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"Albert Ou" <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	"Samuel Holland" <samuel@sholland.org>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Biju Das" <biju.das.jz@bp.renesas.com>,
	"Lad, Prabhakar" <prabhakar.mahadev-lad.rj@bp.renesas.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 3/6] riscv: mm: dma-noncoherent: nonstandard cache operations support
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 22:35:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <92c00ddb-e956-4861-af80-5f5558c9a8f5@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJM55Z8vF8_xq0QyByLUGM2W-8m6R-_6SdOFdLETV7J-yo5DMQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 30, 2023, at 17:42, Emil Renner Berthing wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 at 17:11, Jisheng Zhang <jszhang@kernel.org> wrote:

>> > +
>> >  static inline void arch_dma_cache_wback(phys_addr_t paddr, size_t size)
>> >  {
>> >       void *vaddr = phys_to_virt(paddr);
>> >
>> > +#ifdef CONFIG_RISCV_NONSTANDARD_CACHE_OPS
>> > +     if (unlikely(noncoherent_cache_ops.wback)) {
>>
>> I'm worried about the performance impact here.
>> For unified kernel Image reason, RISCV_NONSTANDARD_CACHE_OPS will be
>> enabled by default, so standard CMO and T-HEAD's CMO platform's
>> performance will be impacted, because even an unlikely is put
>> here, the check action still needs to be done.
>
> On IRC I asked why not use a static key so the overhead is just a
> single nop when the standard CMO ops are available, but the consensus
> seemed to be that the flushing would completely dominate this branch.
> And on platforms with the standard CMO ops the branch be correctly
> predicted anyway.

Not just the flushing, but also loading back the invalidated
cache lines afterwards is just very expensive. I don't think
you would be able to measure a difference between the static
key and a correctly predicted branch on any relevant usecase here.

     Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-30 20:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-02 20:34 [PATCH v10 0/6] Add non-coherent DMA support for AX45MP Prabhakar
2023-07-02 20:34 ` [PATCH v10 1/6] riscv: asm: vendorid_list: Add Andes Technology to the vendors list Prabhakar
2023-07-02 20:34 ` [PATCH v10 2/6] riscv: errata: Add Andes alternative ports Prabhakar
2023-07-02 20:34 ` [PATCH v10 3/6] riscv: mm: dma-noncoherent: nonstandard cache operations support Prabhakar
2023-07-24 10:18   ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-07-28 20:13     ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-07-30 14:57   ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-07-30 15:42     ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-07-30 20:35       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2023-07-31  0:49         ` Guo Ren
2023-07-31  5:39           ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-31 15:43             ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-07-31 16:01               ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-31 11:30     ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-07-31 11:38       ` Conor Dooley
2023-07-31 11:45         ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-07-02 20:34 ` [PATCH v10 4/6] dt-bindings: cache: andestech,ax45mp-cache: Add DT binding documentation for L2 cache controller Prabhakar
2023-07-02 20:34 ` [PATCH v10 5/6] cache: Add L2 cache management for Andes AX45MP RISC-V core Prabhakar
2023-07-31  8:53   ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-07-31 11:26     ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-07-02 20:34 ` [PATCH v10 6/6] soc: renesas: Kconfig: Select the required configs for RZ/Five SoC Prabhakar

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