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([2001:af0:8000:1409:193:86:92:181]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-48c71d2014asm11292042f8f.38.2026.10.08.06.39.53 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 08 Oct 2026 06:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <92d5ec39-6a0e-437e-a03d-b1d2c0ec24cb@suse.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2026 15:39:53 +0200 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH] get_maintainer: only use THE REST as a fallback To: Konstantin Ryabitsev Cc: Joe Perches , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, users@kernel.org References: <20261008-get-maintainer-the-rest-fallback-v1-1-7d26d0b7aa34@linuxfoundation.org> Content-Language: en-US From: Petr Pavlu In-Reply-To: <20261008-get-maintainer-the-rest-fallback-v1-1-7d26d0b7aa34@linuxfoundation.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 10/8/26 2:51 PM, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > THE REST matches every file in the tree via "F: *" and "F: */", so > get_maintainer.pl currently adds linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org to every > patch, regardless of whether the touched files already belong to a > subsystem with its own mailing list. > > Only add THE REST for a file when no other matching section provides a > mailing list for it. Files that match no section, or only sections > without an L: entry, still fall back to THE REST, so every patch keeps > reaching at least one public list. > > Signed-off-by: Konstantin Ryabitsev > --- > LKML has become mostly a firehose of patches that are already going to a > subsystem list. The reason is THE REST: it matches every file in the > tree, so get_maintainer.pl adds linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org to every > single patch. During the week of Oct 1-7, 2026: > > - LKML carried 13,641 messages (~1,950/day), 90% of which were also > sent to at least one other list; > - with ~2,100 subscribers, that is about 29 million deliveries per > week for LKML alone. > > This issue came up during the 2026 Maintainer Summit and the consensus > was that "always include linux-kernel for every patch" was never the > intent. > > This patch makes THE REST a fallback as initially intended: it is only > added for a file when no other matching MAINTAINERS section provides a > mailing list for it. Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst currently says: | linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org should be used by default for all patches, but the | volume on that list has caused a number of developers to tune it out. Please | do not spam unrelated lists and unrelated people, though. If the behavior of scripts/get_maintainer.pl is changed, it would be good to update this documentation accordingly, possibly by simply reverting commit 77167b966b7e ("docs: submitting-patches: clarify the role of LKML"). -- Thanks, Petr