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From: "Prundeanu, Cristian" <cpru@amazon.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	"Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem" <abuehaze@amazon.com>,
	"Saidi, Ali" <alisaidi@amazon.com>,
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	"Blake, Geoff" <blakgeof@amazon.com>,
	"Csoma, Csaba" <csabac@amazon.com>,
	"Doebel, Bjoern" <doebel@amazon.de>,
	Gautham Shenoy <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
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	Joseph Salisbury <joseph.salisbury@oracle.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: EEVDF regression still exists
Date: Fri, 2 May 2025 16:52:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <935376C2-71B9-4E41-9738-99A4BCC55B48@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250502084844.GT4198@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 2025-05-02, 03:50, "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org <mailto:peterz@infradead.org>> wrote:

> On Thu, May 01, 2025 at 04:16:07PM +0000, Prundeanu, Cristian wrote:
> 
>> (Please keep in mind that the target isn't to get SCHED_BATCH to the same
>> level as 6.5-default; it's to resolve the regression from 6.5-default to
>> 6.6+ default, and from 6.5-SCHED_BATCH to 6.6+ SCHED_BATCH).
>
> No, the target definitely is not to make 6.6+ default match 6.5 default.
>
> The target very much is getting you performance similar to the 6.5
> default that you were happy with with knobs we can live with.

If we're talking about new knobs in 6.6+, absolutely.

For this particular case, SCHED_BATCH existed before 6.6. Users who already
enable SCHED_BATCH now have no recourse. We can't, with a straight face,
claim that this is a sufficient fix, or that there is no regression.

I am, of course, interested to discuss any knob tweaks as a stop-gap measure.
(That is also why I proposed moving NO_PLACE_LAG and NO_RUN_TO_PARITY to sysctl
a few months back: to give users, including distro maintainers, a reasonable
way to preconfigure their systems in a standard, persistent way, while this is
being worked on).
None of this should be considered a permanent solution though. It's not a fix,
and was never meant to be anything but a short-term relief while debugging the
regression is ongoing.



  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-02 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-29 21:38 Cristian Prundeanu
2025-04-29 21:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-29 22:06   ` Prundeanu, Cristian
2025-04-30  3:33     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-05-01 16:16       ` Prundeanu, Cristian
2025-05-02  5:56         ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-05-02  6:33           ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-05-02 18:06             ` Prundeanu, Cristian
2025-05-02  8:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-02 16:52           ` Prundeanu, Cristian [this message]
2025-05-14 21:26             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-04-30 10:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-02  7:08   ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-05-02 17:25   ` Prundeanu, Cristian
2025-05-02 17:52     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-05-03  3:34       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-05-21 13:30         ` Cristian Prundeanu
2025-05-20 18:14 Cristian Prundeanu

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