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From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>,
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	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/3] KEYS: Replace assoc_array with rhashtable
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2026 14:02:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <93e6b4e6-43c3-462d-b57c-26676aec85ec@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261106090516.GA1973@sol>

On 11/6/26 10:05 AM, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 06, 2026 at 09:21:32AM +0100, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>> While I am pretty much in favour with this approach, is there a specific
>> reason why siphash has been chosen?
> 
> SipHash is the preferred choice for secure hash tables.  It is secure,
> performs well on short inputs, and doesn't require special instructions.
> See Documentation/security/siphash.rst
> 
>> Would there be a chance to make this configurable?
>> I do see slight complications when running in secure environments
>> (ie FIPS-certified environments) where most of the hash functions
>> might not be available ...
> 
> SipHash support is available even when the kernel is booted with fips=1,
> so there's no issue there.  It's already widely used in the kernel for
> hash tables, and that hasn't blocked FIPS certifications either.
> 
Ah, right. Thanks for the information. Just wanted to cross-check here.

> Side note: fips=1 actually has little do with security, and in some
> cases it actually decreases security.  See for example
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-crypto/20261026183332.11402-1-ebiggers@kernel.org/
> where I'm fixing a vulnerability caused by fips=1.
> 
Oh, I am fully aware. FIPS is more a rubber-stamp than anything else.
Unfortunately, a pretty powerful one.

Cheers,

Hannes
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  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-06 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-05  3:13 [PATCH v5 0/3] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-05  3:13 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] KEYS: Introduce keyring_is_empty() Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-05  3:14 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] KEYS: Replace assoc_array with rhashtable Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-06  8:21   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-11-06  9:05     ` Eric Biggers
2026-11-06 13:02       ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2026-11-06 19:05         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-06 19:19           ` Eric Biggers
2026-11-06 19:30             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-06 19:41               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-06 15:08     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-05  3:14 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] lib: Remove assoc_array Jarkko Sakkinen

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