From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/3] KEYS: Replace assoc_array with rhashtable
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2026 14:02:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <93e6b4e6-43c3-462d-b57c-26676aec85ec@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261106090516.GA1973@sol>
On 11/6/26 10:05 AM, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 06, 2026 at 09:21:32AM +0100, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>> While I am pretty much in favour with this approach, is there a specific
>> reason why siphash has been chosen?
>
> SipHash is the preferred choice for secure hash tables. It is secure,
> performs well on short inputs, and doesn't require special instructions.
> See Documentation/security/siphash.rst
>
>> Would there be a chance to make this configurable?
>> I do see slight complications when running in secure environments
>> (ie FIPS-certified environments) where most of the hash functions
>> might not be available ...
>
> SipHash support is available even when the kernel is booted with fips=1,
> so there's no issue there. It's already widely used in the kernel for
> hash tables, and that hasn't blocked FIPS certifications either.
>
Ah, right. Thanks for the information. Just wanted to cross-check here.
> Side note: fips=1 actually has little do with security, and in some
> cases it actually decreases security. See for example
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-crypto/20261026183332.11402-1-ebiggers@kernel.org/
> where I'm fixing a vulnerability caused by fips=1.
>
Oh, I am fully aware. FIPS is more a rubber-stamp than anything else.
Unfortunately, a pretty powerful one.
Cheers,
Hannes
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-06 13:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-05 3:13 [PATCH v5 0/3] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-05 3:13 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] KEYS: Introduce keyring_is_empty() Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-05 3:14 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] KEYS: Replace assoc_array with rhashtable Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-06 8:21 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-11-06 9:05 ` Eric Biggers
2026-11-06 13:02 ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2026-11-06 19:05 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-06 19:19 ` Eric Biggers
2026-11-06 19:30 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-06 19:41 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-06 15:08 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-05 3:14 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] lib: Remove assoc_array Jarkko Sakkinen
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