From: Abel Wu <wuyun.abel@bytedance.com>
To: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
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Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
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Bitao Hu <yaoma@linux.alibaba.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] cgroup/rstat: Add run_delay accounting for cgroups
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2025 12:48:09 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9515c474-366d-4692-91a7-a4c1a5fc18db@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3wqaz6jb74i2cdtvkv4isvhapiiqukyicuol76s66xwixlaz3c@qr6bva3wbxkx>
Hi Michal,
On 1/27/25 10:10 PM, Michal Koutný Wrote:
> Hello.
>
> On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 01:25:12PM +0800, Abel Wu <wuyun.abel@bytedance.com> wrote:
>> The per-task and per-cpu accounting have already been tracked by
>> t->sched_info.run_delay and rq->rq_sched_info.run_delay respectively.
>> Extends this to also include cgroups.
>>
>> The PSI indicator, "some" of cpu.pressure, loses the insight into how
>> severely that cgroup is stalled. Say 100 tasks or just 1 task that gets
>> stalled at a certain point will show no difference in "some" pressure.
>> IOW "some" is a flat value that not weighted by the severity (e.g. # of
>> tasks).
>
> IIUC below are three examples of when "some" tasks are waiting for CPU:
>
> a)
> t1 |----|
> t2 |xx--|
>
> b)
> t1 |----|
> t2 |x---|
> t3 |-x--|
>
> c)
> t1 |----|
> t2 |xx--|
> t3 |xx--|
>
> (- means runnable on CPU, x means runnable waiting on RQ)
>
> Which pair from a), b), c) is indistinguishable via PSI? (Or can you
> please add your illustrative example?)
PSI tracks stall times for each cpu, and
tSOME[cpu] = time(nr_delayed_tasks[cpu] != 0)
which turns nr_delayed_tasks[cpu] into boolean value, hence loses
insight into how severely this task group is stalled on this cpu.
Thanks,
Abel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-29 4:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-25 5:25 [PATCH v2 0/3] Fix and cleanup and extend cpu.stat Abel Wu
2025-01-25 5:25 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] cgroup/rstat: Fix forceidle time in cpu.stat Abel Wu
2025-01-25 5:25 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] cgroup/rstat: Cleanup cpu.stat once for all Abel Wu
2025-01-27 20:17 ` Tejun Heo
2025-01-29 4:47 ` Abel Wu
2025-01-25 5:25 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] cgroup/rstat: Add run_delay accounting for cgroups Abel Wu
2025-01-27 14:10 ` Michal Koutný
2025-01-29 4:48 ` Abel Wu [this message]
2025-02-10 15:38 ` Michal Koutný
2025-02-10 16:20 ` Tejun Heo
2025-02-10 18:25 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-02-12 15:17 ` Abel Wu
2025-02-21 15:36 ` Michal Koutný
2025-02-12 15:14 ` Abel Wu
2025-02-12 15:12 ` Abel Wu
2025-02-03 8:11 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Fix and cleanup and extend cpu.stat Abel Wu
2025-02-04 20:46 ` Tejun Heo
2025-02-05 2:42 ` Abel Wu
2025-02-10 8:51 ` Abel Wu
2025-02-19 2:34 ` Abel Wu
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