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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Tao Cui <cui.tao@linux.dev>
Cc: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	josef@toxicopanda.com, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cuitao@kylinos.cn,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] blk-iocost: charge flushes as pageless random writes
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2026 04:59:51 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9575357186118be214d6377dd80a21e8@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260916085304.1080271-2-cui.tao@linux.dev>

Hello, Tao.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2026 at 04:53:01PM +0800, Tao Cui wrote:
> Charge the flush component of any REQ_PREFLUSH bio on top of its data
> cost, priced as a pageless random write (LCOEF_WRANDIO), which provides
> an approximation of the device time consumed by a flush.  For profiles
> where WRANDIO clamps to zero (ssd_dfl / ssd_fast), use a one-page floor
> (LCOEF_WPAGE).

Pricing a flush as a random write, or as a page where that comes out to
zero, is as arbitrary as pricing it at zero, and it changes what existing
setups get charged. 013adcbef165 ("blk-iocost: skip empty flush bio in
iocost") zeroed them because the flush machinery coalesces flushes and the
write coefficients don't say anything about what a flush costs.

Can you instead add the flushiops parameter you mentioned in the v1 thread
to the linear model? A flush costs VTIME_PER_SEC / flushiops, and zero when
the parameter isn't set, including in the builtin profiles, so nothing
changes until it's configured or the profiles are regenerated with a flush
measurement.

The same charge should cover REQ_FUA the way the flush machinery does: one
flush for PREFLUSH, and one for FUA on a device without FUA support, which
is when a post-flush gets issued.

Please also drop the Fixes tag on this patch. With the parameter, this is
an extension rather than a fix.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-09-19 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-16  8:53 [PATCH v2 0/4] blk-iocost: charge flushes and zone appends Tao Cui
2026-09-16  8:53 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] blk-iocost: charge flushes as pageless random writes Tao Cui
2026-09-18 13:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-09-19 14:59   ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2026-09-20  7:08     ` Tao Cui
2026-09-16  8:53 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] blk-iocost: charge zone appends as page-counted sequential writes Tao Cui
2026-09-18 13:22   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-09-20  7:11     ` Tao Cui
2026-09-19 15:00   ` Tejun Heo
2026-09-20  7:13     ` Tao Cui
2026-09-16  8:53 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] blk-iocost: account zone append completions in latency stats Tao Cui
2026-09-18 13:22   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-09-16  8:53 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] blk-iocost: fix stale comment in ioc_rqos_throttle() Tao Cui
2026-09-18 13:23   ` Christoph Hellwig

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