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From: Per Larsen <perl@immunant.com>
To: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>, Ben Horgan <ben.horgan@arm.com>
Cc: maz@kernel.org, oliver.upton@linux.dev, joey.gouly@arm.com,
	suzuki.poulose@arm.com, yuzenghui@huawei.com,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org, perlarsen@google.com,
	ayrton@google.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] KVM: arm64: support optional calls of FF-A v1.2
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 14:29:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <96171283-6f2a-45b5-b889-be1bee91678c@immunant.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aQIYZoP5iKcwtXwW@e129823.arm.com>

Hi Yeoreum,

On 10/29/25 2:36 PM, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
> Hi Ben,
> 
>>
>> On 10/28/25 21:06, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
>>> Hi Ben,
>>>
>>>>> To use TPM drvier which uses CRB over FF-A with FFA_DIRECT_REQ2,
>>>>> support the FF-A v1.2's optinal calls by querying whether
>>>>> SPMC supports those.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>   arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/nvhe/ffa.c | 19 ++++++++++++++++++-
>>>>>   1 file changed, 18 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/nvhe/ffa.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/nvhe/ffa.c
>>>>> index 0ae87ff61758..9ded1c6369b9 100644
>>>>> --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/nvhe/ffa.c
>>>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/nvhe/ffa.c
>>>>> @@ -646,6 +646,22 @@ static void do_ffa_mem_reclaim(struct arm_smccc_1_2_regs *res,
>>>>>   		ffa_to_smccc_res(res, ret);
>>>>>   }
>>>>>
>>>>> +static bool ffa_1_2_optional_calls_supported(u64 func_id)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +	struct arm_smccc_1_2_regs res;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +	if (!smp_load_acquire(&has_version_negotiated) ||
>>>>> +		(FFA_MINOR_VERSION(FFA_VERSION_1_2) < 2))
>>>>> +		return false;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +	arm_smccc_1_2_smc(&(struct arm_smccc_1_2_regs) {
>>>>> +		.a0 = FFA_FEATURES,
>>>>> +		.a1 = func_id,
>>>>> +	}, &res);
>>>>> +
>>>>> +	return res.a0 == FFA_SUCCESS;
>>>>> +}
>>>>> +
>>>>>   /*
>>>>>    * Is a given FFA function supported, either by forwarding on directly
>>>>>    * or by handling at EL2?
>>>>> @@ -678,12 +694,13 @@ static bool ffa_call_supported(u64 func_id)
>>>>>   	case FFA_NOTIFICATION_SET:
>>>>>   	case FFA_NOTIFICATION_GET:
>>>>>   	case FFA_NOTIFICATION_INFO_GET:
>>>>> +		return false;
>>>>>   	/* Optional interfaces added in FF-A 1.2 */
>>>>>   	case FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ2:		/* Optional per 7.5.1 */
>>>>>   	case FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_RESP2:		/* Optional per 7.5.1 */
>>>>>   	case FFA_CONSOLE_LOG:			/* Optional per 13.1: not in Table 13.1 */
>>>>
>>>> Looking at table 13.54 in the FF-A 1.2 spec FFA_CONSOLE_LOG is only supported in secure FF-A
>>>> instances and not from the normal world.
>>>
>>> Thanks. in that case, we can return false for FFA_CONSOLE_LOG
>>> unconditionally.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>   	case FFA_PARTITION_INFO_GET_REGS:	/* Optional for virtual instances per 13.1 */
>>>>> -		return false;
>>>>> +		return ffa_1_2_optional_calls_supported(func_id);
>>>>>   	}
>>>>
>>>> I don't think that an smc call here is the right thing to do. This changes this from a light
>>>> weight deny list to an extra smc call for each ffa_msg_send_direct_req2 from the driver.
>>>>
>>>> Instead, I would expect this patch just to remove FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ2 from the deny list
>>>> and rely on the TPM driver to use FFA_FEATURES to check whether it's supported.
>>>>
>>>> So, just this change:
>>>>
>>>> @@ -679,7 +679,6 @@ static bool ffa_call_supported(u64 func_id)
>>>>          case FFA_NOTIFICATION_GET:
>>>>          case FFA_NOTIFICATION_INFO_GET:
>>>>          /* Optional interfaces added in FF-A 1.2 */
>>>> -       case FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ2:          /* Optional per 7.5.1 */
>>>>          case FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_RESP2:         /* Optional per 7.5.1 */
>>>>          case FFA_CONSOLE_LOG:                   /* Optional per 13.1: not in Table 13.1 */
>>>>          case FFA_PARTITION_INFO_GET_REGS:       /* Optional for virtual instances per 13.1 */
>>>>
>>>> Am I missing something?
>>>
>>> Nope. I think you don't think you miss anything and
>>> I also think about it.
>>>
>>> But, I'm not sure about "support" means in the pkvm about FF-A.
>>> Anyway unless the SPMC doesn't support the specific FF-A ABI,
>>> I don't know that's meaningful to return "TRUE" in here.
>>> IOW, suppose pkvm returns supports of  FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ2
>>> but user receive when it calls FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ2 with NOT SUPPORTED.
>>
>> As I understand it, the ffa_call_supported() is used in two places:
>> 1. To return NOT SUPPORTED to an FFA_FEATURE call for ffa calls that are
>> on the deny list.
>> 2. To block ffa calls if they are on the deny list.
>>
>> For both your patch and just removing FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ2 from the
>> denylist I think the behaviour is the same.
>>
>> If FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ2 is not supported at the spmc then:
>> a) an FFA_FEATURE call will return not supported
>> b) an FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ2 will return not supported
>>
> 
> Right! I've missed the FFA_FEATURE handles via default_host_smc_handler().
> As you said, it just a deny list.
> 
> Thanks. I'll change it.
Sorry to jump into the discussion very late. I uploaded a patch set 
which adds support for the FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ2 interface which was 
originally developed for the Android common kernels:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251030-host-direct-messages-v1-0-463e57871c8f@google.com/T/#t 


Since there appears to be an upstream use case for this functionality, 
it might be a good building block for the present patch set.

Thanks,
Per

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-30 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-27 19:17 [PATCH 0/2] use TPM device with CRB over FF-A when kernel boot with pkvm Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-27 19:17 ` [PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: fix FF-A call failure when ff-a driver is built-in Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-31  8:09   ` Sebastian Ene
2025-10-31 10:08     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-31 10:27       ` Marc Zyngier
2025-10-31 11:11         ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-27 19:17 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: arm64: support optional calls of FF-A v1.2 Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-28 10:26   ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-28 21:06     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-29  9:49       ` Ben Horgan
2025-10-29 13:36         ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-30 13:29           ` Per Larsen [this message]
2025-10-30 13:43             ` Yeoreum Yun

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