From: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
To: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
Doug Nelson <doug.nelson@intel.com>,
Mohini Narkhede <mohini.narkhede@intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.ibm.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] sched/fair: Skip sched_balance_running cmpxchg when balance is not due
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2025 09:55:17 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <96d58672-330a-48fb-a308-fb41ce084063@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c6fe7ac0f6de4d51705bb2f24f82df2c3018804f.camel@linux.intel.com>
On 11/13/25 2:40 AM, Tim Chen wrote:
> On Wed, 2025-11-12 at 12:21 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 04:39:43PM +0530, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>
>>>> So perhaps this is the better option -- or did I overlook something with
>>>> should_we_balance? It doesn't look like that will make a different
>>>> decision on the retry.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think in newidle balance, these checks are there in swb to bail of load balance.
>>> redo logic catches it right?
>>
>> Urgh, my brain still thinks we're not serializing on newidle. Perhaps I
>> should make this 2 patches, one moving the serializing and one adding it
>> to newidle.
>>
>>> env->dst_rq lock is taken only in attach_tasks, meanwhile, if the wakeup happened,
>>> pending would be set. is irq enabled or remote CPU can set ttwu_pending on this rq?
>>>
>>> if (env->idle == CPU_NEWLY_IDLE) {
>>> if (env->dst_rq->nr_running > 0 || env->dst_rq->ttwu_pending)
>>> return 0;
>>> return 1;
>>> }
>>
>> Right, that could get tickled.
>
> How about something like the following on top of v4 patch?
> This will avoid releasing the lock and take care of the NEWLY_IDLE case.
>
> Tim
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index 43c5ec039633..26179f4b77f6 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -11772,14 +11772,13 @@ static int sched_balance_rq(int this_cpu, struct rq *this_rq,
> .fbq_type = all,
> .tasks = LIST_HEAD_INIT(env.tasks),
> };
> - bool need_unlock;
> + bool need_unlock = false;
>
> cpumask_and(cpus, sched_domain_span(sd), cpu_active_mask);
>
> schedstat_inc(sd->lb_count[idle]);
>
> redo:
> - need_unlock = false;
> if (!should_we_balance(&env)) {
> *continue_balancing = 0;
> goto out_balanced;
> @@ -11916,9 +11915,9 @@ static int sched_balance_rq(int this_cpu, struct rq *this_rq,
> if (!cpumask_subset(cpus, env.dst_grpmask)) {
> env.loop = 0;
> env.loop_break = SCHED_NR_MIGRATE_BREAK;
> - if (need_unlock)
> - atomic_set_release(&sched_balance_running, 0);
> -
> + if (env->idle == CPU_NEWLY_IDLE &&
> + (env->dst_running > 0 || env->dst_rq->ttwu_pending))
> + goto out;
IIUC, we come here, it means busiest cpu was found, but due to
affinity restrictions none of the tasks can come to this cpu.
So a redo is done excluding that busiest cpu if there are cpus other
than the group_mask of this cpu. So doing a redo does make sense specially
for newidle.
So doing bailing out might be wrong.
> goto redo;
> }
> goto out_all_pinned;
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-13 4:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-10 18:47 Tim Chen
2025-11-11 6:24 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-12 8:02 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2025-11-12 10:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 11:09 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-12 11:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 21:10 ` Tim Chen
2025-11-13 4:25 ` Shrikanth Hegde [this message]
2025-11-13 17:49 ` Tim Chen
2025-11-12 11:25 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2025-11-12 13:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 13:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 16:02 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2025-11-12 10:53 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-14 12:19 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Tim Chen
2025-11-15 20:56 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-17 18:55 ` Tim Chen
2025-11-17 19:00 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-11-27 14:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-18 9:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-18 9:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-21 6:26 ` Nathan Chancellor
2025-11-21 9:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-17 19:06 ` Borislav Petkov
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