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From: Jinchao Wang <wangjinchao600@gmail.com>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Joel Granados <joel.granados@kernel.org>,
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	Sravan Kumar Gundu <sravankumarlpu@gmail.com>,
	Ryo Takakura <takakura@valinux.co.jp>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Wei Liu <wei.liu@kernel.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] panic: call hardlockup_detector_perf_stop in panic
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:22:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <970366ee-0fc0-4a64-816e-3c3ac738e24a@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aKSRzbUvuEkVz-Gk@pathway.suse.cz>

On 8/19/25 23:01, Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Wed 2025-07-30 11:06:33, Wang Jinchao wrote:
>> When a panic happens, it blocks the cpu, which may
>> trigger the hardlockup detector if some dump is slow.
>> So call hardlockup_detector_perf_stop() to disable
>> hardlockup dector.
> 
> Could you please provide more details, especially the log showing
> the problem?

Here's what happened: I configured the kernel to use efi-pstore for kdump
logging while enabling the perf hard lockup detector (NMI). Perhaps the
efi-pstore was slow and there were too many logs. When the first panic was
triggered, the pstore dump callback in kmsg_dump()->dumper->dump() took a
long time, which triggered the NMI watchdog. Then emergency_restart()
triggered the machine restart before the efi-pstore operation finished.
The function call flow looked like this:

```c
real panic() {
	kmsg_dump() {
		...
		pstore_dump() {
			start_dump();
			... // long time operation triggers NMI watchdog
			nmi panic() {
				...
				emergency_restart(); //pstore unfinished
			}
			...
			finish_dump(); // never reached
		}
	}
}
```

This created a nested panic situation where the second panic interrupted
the crash dump process, causing the loss of the original panic information.
> 
> I wonder if this is similar to
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/SN6PR02MB4157A4C5E8CB219A75263A17D46DA@SN6PR02MB4157.namprd02.prod.outlook.com/
> 
> There was a problem that a non-panic CPU might get stuck in
> pl011_console_write_thread() or any other con->write_thread()
> callback because nbcon_reacquire_nobuf(wctxt) ended in an infinite
> loop.
> 
> It was a real lockup. It has got recently fixed in 6.17-rc1 by
> the commit 571c1ea91a73db56bd94 ("printk: nbcon: Allow reacquire
> during panic"), see
> https://patch.msgid.link/20250606185549.900611-1-john.ogness@linutronix.de
> It is possible that it fixed your problem as well.
> 
> That said, it might make sense to disable the hardlockup
> detector during panic. But I do not like the proposed way,
> see below.
> 
>> --- a/kernel/panic.c
>> +++ b/kernel/panic.c
>> @@ -339,6 +339,7 @@ void panic(const char *fmt, ...)
>>   	 */
>>   	local_irq_disable();
>>   	preempt_disable_notrace();
>> +	hardlockup_detector_perf_stop();
> 
> I see the following in kernel/watchdog_perf.c:
> 
> /**
>   * hardlockup_detector_perf_stop - Globally stop watchdog events
>   *
>   * Special interface for x86 to handle the perf HT bug.
>   */
> void __init hardlockup_detector_perf_stop(void)
> {
> [...]
> 	lockdep_assert_cpus_held();
> [...]
> }
> 
> 1. It is suspicious to see an x86-specific "hacky" function called in
>     the generic panic().
> 
>     Is this safe?
>     What about other hardlockup detectors?
> 
> 
> 2. I expect that lockdep_assert_cpus_held() would complain
>     when CONFIG_LOCKDEP was enabled.
> 
> 
> Anyway, it does not look safe. panic() might be called in any context,
> including NMI, and I see:
> 
>   + hardlockup_detector_perf_stop()
>     + perf_event_disable()
>       + perf_event_ctx_lock()
>         + mutex_lock_nested()
> 
> This might cause deadlock when called in NMI, definitely.
> 
> Alternative:
> 
> A conservative approach would be to update watchdog_hardlockup_check()
> so that it does nothing when panic_in_progress() returns true. It
> would even work for both hardlockup detectors implementation.
Yes, I think it is a better solution.
I didn't find panic_in_progress() but found 
hardlockup_detector_perf_stop() available instead :)
I will send another patch.

> 
> Best Regards,
> Petr


-- 
Best regards,
Jinchao

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-20  6:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-30  3:06 Wang Jinchao
2025-08-19 15:01 ` Petr Mladek
2025-08-20  6:22   ` Jinchao Wang [this message]
2025-08-20 10:22     ` Petr Mladek
2025-08-21  1:35       ` Jinchao Wang

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