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From: Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>,
	Fox Chen <foxhlchen@gmail.com>,
	Brice Goglin <brice.goglin@gmail.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Rick Lindsley <ricklind@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [REPOST PATCH v4 2/5] kernfs: use VFS negative dentry caching
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2021 11:44:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <972701826ebb1b3b3e00b12cde821b85eebc9749.camel@themaw.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpeguUj5WKtKZsn_tZZNpiL17ggAPcPBXdpA03aAnjaexWug@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2021-06-01 at 14:41 +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Fri, 28 May 2021 at 08:34, Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net> wrote:
> > 
> > If there are many lookups for non-existent paths these negative
> > lookups
> > can lead to a lot of overhead during path walks.
> > 
> > The VFS allows dentries to be created as negative and hashed, and
> > caches
> > them so they can be used to reduce the fairly high overhead
> > alloc/free
> > cycle that occurs during these lookups.
> 
> Obviously there's a cost associated with negative caching too.  For
> normal filesystems it's trivially worth that cost, but in case of
> kernfs, not sure...
> 
> Can "fairly high" be somewhat substantiated with a microbenchmark for
> negative lookups?

Well, maybe, but anything we do for a benchmark would be totally
artificial.

The reason I added this is because I saw appreciable contention
on the dentry alloc path in one case I saw. It was a while ago
now but IIRC it was systemd coldplug using at least one path
that didn't exist. I thought that this was done because of some
special case requirement so VFS negative dentry caching was a
sensible countermeasure. I guess there could be lookups for
non-existent paths from other than deterministic programmatic
sources but I still felt it was a sensible thing to do.

> 
> More comments inline.
> 
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
> > ---
> >  fs/kernfs/dir.c |   55 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------
> > ------------
> >  1 file changed, 33 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/fs/kernfs/dir.c b/fs/kernfs/dir.c
> > index 4c69e2af82dac..5151c712f06f5 100644
> > --- a/fs/kernfs/dir.c
> > +++ b/fs/kernfs/dir.c
> > @@ -1037,12 +1037,33 @@ static int kernfs_dop_revalidate(struct
> > dentry *dentry, unsigned int flags)
> >         if (flags & LOOKUP_RCU)
> >                 return -ECHILD;
> > 
> > -       /* Always perform fresh lookup for negatives */
> > -       if (d_really_is_negative(dentry))
> > -               goto out_bad_unlocked;
> > +       mutex_lock(&kernfs_mutex);
> > 
> >         kn = kernfs_dentry_node(dentry);
> > -       mutex_lock(&kernfs_mutex);
> > +
> > +       /* Negative hashed dentry? */
> > +       if (!kn) {
> > +               struct kernfs_node *parent;
> > +
> > +               /* If the kernfs node can be found this is a stale
> > negative
> > +                * hashed dentry so it must be discarded and the
> > lookup redone.
> > +                */
> > +               parent = kernfs_dentry_node(dentry->d_parent);
> 
> This doesn't look safe WRT a racing sys_rename().  In this case
> d_move() is called only with parent inode locked, but not with
> kernfs_mutex while ->d_revalidate() may not have parent inode locked.
> After d_move() the old parent dentry can be freed, resulting in use
> after free.  Easily fixed by dget_parent().

Umm ... I'll need some more explanation here ... 

We are in ref-walk mode so the parent dentry isn't going away.
And this is a negative dentry so rename is going to bail out
with ENOENT way early.

Are you talking about a racing parent rename requiring a
READ_ONCE() and dget_parent() being the safest way to do
that?

> 
> > +               if (parent) {
> > +                       const void *ns = NULL;
> > +
> > +                       if (kernfs_ns_enabled(parent))
> > +                               ns = kernfs_info(dentry->d_sb)->ns;
> > +                       kn = kernfs_find_ns(parent, dentry-
> > >d_name.name, ns);
> 
> Same thing with d_name.  There's
> take_dentry_name_snapshot()/release_dentry_name_snapshot() to
> properly
> take care of that.

I don't see that problem either, due to the dentry being negative,
but please explain what your seeing here.

> 
> 
> > +                       if (kn)
> > +                               goto out_bad;
> > +               }
> > +
> > +               /* The kernfs node doesn't exist, leave the dentry
> > negative
> > +                * and return success.
> > +                */
> > +               goto out;
> > +       }
> > 
> >         /* The kernfs node has been deactivated */
> >         if (!kernfs_active_read(kn))
> > @@ -1060,12 +1081,11 @@ static int kernfs_dop_revalidate(struct
> > dentry *dentry, unsigned int flags)
> >         if (kn->parent && kernfs_ns_enabled(kn->parent) &&
> >             kernfs_info(dentry->d_sb)->ns != kn->ns)
> >                 goto out_bad;
> > -
> > +out:
> >         mutex_unlock(&kernfs_mutex);
> >         return 1;
> >  out_bad:
> >         mutex_unlock(&kernfs_mutex);
> > -out_bad_unlocked:
> >         return 0;
> >  }
> > 
> > @@ -1080,33 +1100,24 @@ static struct dentry
> > *kernfs_iop_lookup(struct inode *dir,
> >         struct dentry *ret;
> >         struct kernfs_node *parent = dir->i_private;
> >         struct kernfs_node *kn;
> > -       struct inode *inode;
> > +       struct inode *inode = NULL;
> >         const void *ns = NULL;
> > 
> >         mutex_lock(&kernfs_mutex);
> > -
> >         if (kernfs_ns_enabled(parent))
> >                 ns = kernfs_info(dir->i_sb)->ns;
> > 
> >         kn = kernfs_find_ns(parent, dentry->d_name.name, ns);
> > -
> > -       /* no such entry */
> > -       if (!kn || !kernfs_active(kn)) {
> > -               ret = NULL;
> > -               goto out_unlock;
> > -       }
> > -
> >         /* attach dentry and inode */
> > -       inode = kernfs_get_inode(dir->i_sb, kn);
> > -       if (!inode) {
> > -               ret = ERR_PTR(-ENOMEM);
> > -               goto out_unlock;
> > +       if (kn && kernfs_active(kn)) {
> > +               inode = kernfs_get_inode(dir->i_sb, kn);
> > +               if (!inode)
> > +                       inode = ERR_PTR(-ENOMEM);
> >         }
> > -
> > -       /* instantiate and hash dentry */
> > +       /* instantiate and hash (possibly negative) dentry */
> >         ret = d_splice_alias(inode, dentry);
> > - out_unlock:
> >         mutex_unlock(&kernfs_mutex);
> > +
> >         return ret;
> >  }
> > 
> > 
> > 



  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-02  3:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-28  6:33 [REPOST PATCH v4 0/5] kernfs: proposed locking and concurrency improvement Ian Kent
2021-05-28  6:33 ` [REPOST PATCH v4 1/5] kernfs: move revalidate to be near lookup Ian Kent
2021-06-03 14:50   ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-04  2:29     ` Ian Kent
2021-05-28  6:34 ` [REPOST PATCH v4 2/5] kernfs: use VFS negative dentry caching Ian Kent
2021-06-01 12:41   ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-06-02  3:44     ` Ian Kent [this message]
2021-06-02  8:58       ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-06-02 10:57         ` Ian Kent
2021-06-03  2:15           ` Ian Kent
2021-06-03 23:57             ` Ian Kent
2021-06-04  1:07               ` Ian Kent
2021-06-03 17:26   ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-03 18:06     ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-06-03 22:02       ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-04  3:14         ` Ian Kent
2021-06-04 14:28           ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-05  3:19             ` Ian Kent
2021-06-05 20:52               ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-28  6:34 ` [REPOST PATCH v4 3/5] kernfs: switch kernfs to use an rwsem Ian Kent
2021-06-01 13:11   ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-06-03 16:59   ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-28  6:34 ` [REPOST PATCH v4 4/5] kernfs: use i_lock to protect concurrent inode updates Ian Kent
2021-05-31 14:53   ` [kernfs] 9a658329cd: stress-ng.get.ops_per_sec 191.4% improvement kernel test robot
2021-06-01 13:18   ` [REPOST PATCH v4 4/5] kernfs: use i_lock to protect concurrent inode updates Miklos Szeredi
2021-06-02  5:41     ` Ian Kent
2021-05-28  6:34 ` [REPOST PATCH v4 5/5] kernfs: add kernfs_need_inode_refresh() Ian Kent
2021-05-28  8:56 ` [REPOST PATCH v4 0/5] kernfs: proposed locking and concurrency improvement Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-05-28 11:56   ` Fox Chen
2021-05-30  4:44   ` Fox Chen

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