From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38C9DCA40; Sun, 12 May 2024 06:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=130.133.4.66 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1715493792; cv=none; b=RErCN0V3kfYBz+5Yb6dO1Yc/JJhGTTCaZo8Qn7WXZXPvJhq8VkA7wlXYArXNr6mAsjJsNozJTJLve2jnFVu2E3xBv4Yo017xWYtWUavZUSGjDjU6/KlzL14DczaL8fFvLkPwyD+uT1Iuxbb/lNH1H2fZz44GQ7kMMvJ1RvxAJO0= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1715493792; c=relaxed/simple; bh=wc0n9iid1qRQsONSgOFJNmciYzUpoJMhC69toRZiXW8=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References: Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=VoAvcDRlju4R5VEz6t8D/TnQSKormzGje6wyYPfbj1DJfk+jpXZ+3siIyjhGQif1MjRGLd67rmea9oAujrCO4R7OxLczJ8d5fVkZFlLYl3RE6Z65W01yiNNWb5WcX93nCDc+A+GAgHZovjHaGvwH9r8zViOmKpPL0Sl3Y4NBFOM= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=physik.fu-berlin.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=zedat.fu-berlin.de; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fu-berlin.de header.i=@fu-berlin.de header.b=oy4px8we; arc=none smtp.client-ip=130.133.4.66 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=physik.fu-berlin.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=zedat.fu-berlin.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fu-berlin.de header.i=@fu-berlin.de header.b="oy4px8we" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fu-berlin.de; s=fub01; h=MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:References:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=kly5u5emMu+abVf+gUTZH7K7hMn2WkPSWkhp2VHU1Gc=; t=1715493789; x=1716098589; b=oy4px8weEDORIDuFSH3IYbi29zNGkdmdl/6xx5NldG7YxNC102CRHiKpF+3zw+v8tzJUocIgYZ/ x2rk6Fe0lciA316AZ7vXPdzrVu+dXIuOUEVqlIrrRpzQcmBXllRjWz8gXaDrf+2Z6JOoQr4ba86aI cTkyNSxK9/v92kMclqZrf4lwoENi4P+JbHXU3qvlxfhlx1S0OBlXKdReGlHjVGlLPgRppXwbITGvq 5ZdgKuL+4JjaqXbHLxtv/Yd81UaCEUkVgIw5o48VqwGOmDvI5DTEZpU8N0ZfZ2ew5Y1SpRwQCGKDq lWNWoJIpFHEADM+XgN3qm2FRFePo0/2AQFwg==; Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.97) with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1s62IW-00000000ej4-1n2q; Sun, 12 May 2024 08:03:00 +0200 Received: from dynamic-077-191-174-180.77.191.pool.telefonica.de ([77.191.174.180] helo=suse-laptop.fritz.box) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.97) with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1s62IW-00000000EOs-0rco; Sun, 12 May 2024 08:03:00 +0200 Message-ID: <975442500864e4f30a830afb4ffd09a9bedb65d6.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] alpha: cleanups and build fixes for 6.10 From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz To: paulmck@kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann Cc: Linus Torvalds , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linux-Arch , linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, Richard Henderson , Ivan Kokshaysky , Matt Turner , Alexander Viro Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 08:02:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <71feb004-82ef-4c7b-9e21-0264607e4b20@app.fastmail.com> <6e6dae45ffbf7a6ab54175695a3e21207c6f5126.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> <46543a98-4767-471a-91be-20fb60ab138b@paulmck-laptop> <7432d241b538819b603194bfb3a306faf360d4b1.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> <8dd1c466-54e3-45c1-a19f-f81dd9dbf243@app.fastmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.52.1 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de X-ZEDAT-Hint: PO On Sat, 2024-05-11 at 18:26 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > And that breaks things because it can clobber concurrent stores to > other bytes in that enclosing machine word. But pre-EV56 Alpha has always been like this. What makes it broken all of a sudden? My question was whether it actually stopped working, i.e. it's no longer usable on these machines but that's not the case as far as I know as not too long ago someone was actually running Debian on a Jensen machine [1]. We could actually ask Ulrich Teichert what the current state is on his Jensen machine. Adrian > [1] https://marc.info/?l=3Dlinux-alpha&m=3D163265555616841&w=3D2 --=20 .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer `. `' Physicist `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913