From: Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
tony.luck@intel.com, bp@alien8.de
Cc: x86@kernel.org, Dave.Martin@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com,
corbet@lwn.net, skhan@linuxfoundation.org, rdunlap@infradead.org,
tglx@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
hpa@zytor.com, kas@kernel.org, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,
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linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/2] x86,fs/resctrl: Keep mbm_assign_mode in default mode at boot
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2026 09:48:45 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9778fb3e-f5f8-4137-be2a-598cd44fc6f4@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0082b675-5749-410c-9fec-9ce9b23b2498@intel.com>
Hi Reinette,
Thanks for the review.
On 10/26/26 19:15, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
>
> On 10/21/26 4:58 PM, Babu Moger wrote:
>> The mbm_event mode assigns hardware MBM counters to RMID/event pairs.
>> It is intended for deployments that need to manage counter assignment
>> on platforms where the number of monitoring groups exceeds the available
>> hardware counters. Hardware counters are scarce on these platforms, so
>> mbm_event mode suits workflows that monitor a subset of groups at a time
>> and rotate assignments as needed.
>>
>> resctrl enables the mbm_event mode by default on hardware that supports
>
> nit: "resctrl enables" -> "x86 resctrl enables" to highlight this is not the
> resctrl filesystem behavior but the x86 arch driver behavior, which is different
> from the MPAM driver.
Sure.
>
>> it. This breaks the pqos tool [1], which assumes the historical default
>> mode. It creates 16 or more monitoring groups and uses two counters per
>> group. On a platform with 32 counters per domain, that exhausts the
>> mbm_event counters pool, causing additional groups to read "Unassigned".
>> pqos interprets a non-numeric event read as zero bandwidth and reports 0
>> MB/s for those groups:
>>
>> $sudo pqos -m all:0-4
>> CORE IPC MISSES LLC[KB] MBL[MB/s] MBR[MB/s]
>> 0 0.69 16k 192.0 0.0 0.0
>> 1 0.40 3k 0.0 0.0 0.0
>> 2 0.44 1k 64.0 0.0 0.0
>> 3 0.39 1k 64.0 0.0 0.0
>> 4 0.43 1k 0.0 0.0 0.0
>>
>> Leave mbm_assign_mode in default mode during initialization. Default mode
>> uses one counter per monitoring group. On existing AMD platforms, the
>> default active counters pool is 64 and may be larger on newer hardware.
>> The active counters pool is the number of counters that the hardware can
>> actively track in default mode.
>>
>> Deployments within the active counters pool receive accurate bandwidth
>> measurements in the default mode. Users can create more monitoring groups
>> (for example, 4096 on current hardware) than there are active counters in
>> the pool. Beyond that pool, readings may be misleading or report as
>> "Unavailable", with no user-visible indication.
>>
>> Default mode is still limited once the number of monitoring groups exceeds
>> that active counters pool. After hardware re-allocates a counter, a read
>> may return "Unavailable". pqos still treats "Unavailable" as zero.
>> Successive reads can be a count, "Unavailable", then another count. pqos
>> treats those jumps as wraparound and can report an inconsistent rate:
>>
>> $sudo pqos -m all:0-4
>> CORE IPC MISSES LLC[KB] MBL[MB/s] MBR[MB/s]
>> 0 0.76 60k 32.0 0.0 0.0
>> 1 0.45 1k 32.0 0.0 0.0
>> 2 1.57 107k 64.0 0.0 17592186044184.9
>> 3 1.62 276k 4928.0 3.2 0.5
>>
>> Users that need stable measurements beyond the active counters pool should
>> use mbm_event mode and rotate assignments as needed. Enable it with:
>>
>> $echo mbm_event > /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_mode
>
> nit: "$echo mbm_event" -> "# echo mbm_event"
>
Sure.
>>
>> Fixes: 0f1576e43adc ("x86/resctrl: Configure mbm_event mode if supported")
>> Closes: https://github.com/intel/intel-cmt-cat/issues/311
>> Signed-off-by: Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>
>> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
>> Link: https://github.com/intel/intel-cmt-cat # [1]
>> ---
>
> ...
>
>> ---
>> Documentation/filesystems/resctrl.rst | 101 ++++++++++++++++----------
>> arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/monitor.c | 1 -
>> 2 files changed, 63 insertions(+), 39 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/filesystems/resctrl.rst b/Documentation/filesystems/resctrl.rst
>> index b52795e03303..fc3ced99e3b7 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/filesystems/resctrl.rst
>> +++ b/Documentation/filesystems/resctrl.rst
>> @@ -354,8 +354,8 @@ with the following files:
>> ::
>>
>> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_mode
>> - [mbm_event]
>> - default
>> + [default]
>> + mbm_event
>>
>> "mbm_event":
>>
>> @@ -373,20 +373,35 @@ with the following files:
>> Moving to mbm_event counter assignment mode requires users to assign the counters
>> to the events. Otherwise, the MBM event counters will return 'Unassigned' when read.
>>
>> - The mode is beneficial for AMD platforms that support more CTRL_MON
>> - and MON groups than available hardware counters. By default, this
>> - feature is enabled on AMD platforms with the ABMC (Assignable Bandwidth
>> - Monitoring Counters) capability, ensuring counters remain assigned even
>> - when the corresponding RMID is not actively used by any processor.
>> + It is intended for deployments that need to manage counter assignment on
>> + platforms where the number of monitoring groups exceeds the available
>> + hardware counters. Hardware counters are scarce on these platforms, so
>> + mbm_event mode suits workflows that monitor a subset of groups at a time and
>> + rotate assignments as needed. The mbm_event mode ensures counters remain
>> + assigned even when the corresponding RMID is not actively monitored.
>
> An assigned counter implies that the RMID,event is monitored. Considering this, the last
> sentence appears to have a contradication:
> The mbm_event mode ensures counters remain assigned even when the
> corresponding RMID is _not_ actively _monitored_.
>
> Should "monitored" rather be "used"? This would read:
> The mbm_event mode ensures counters remain assigned even when the
> corresponding RMID is not actively used.
Yes. Sounds good.
> > "default":
>>
>> In default mode, resctrl assumes there is a hardware counter for each
>> - event within every CTRL_MON and MON group. On AMD platforms, it is
>> - recommended to use the mbm_event mode, if supported, to prevent reset of MBM
>> - events between reads resulting from hardware re-allocating counters. This can
>> - result in misleading values or display "Unavailable" if no counter is assigned
>> - to the event.
>> + event within every CTRL_MON and MON group. This mode is enabled by default.
>
> Please drop "This mode is enabled by default." since this is general documentation and
> this is not true for MPAM.
Sure.
>
>> +
>> + On AMD platforms that support more CTRL_MON and MON groups than hardware
>> + counters, hardware dynamically shares a smaller pool of counters among
>> + RMIDs. One counter from this pool is used per monitoring group and counts
>> + every MBM event of that group's RMID. The size of the pool is not
>> + enumerated to software (unlike "num_mbm_cntrs"), and "num_rmids" may be
>> + much larger. For example, 64 counters in this pool monitor 64 groups.
>> + Newer hardware may provide a larger pool.
>> +
>> + While the number of monitoring groups does not exceed that pool, a counter
>> + stays attached to each RMID and readings remain accurate. Creating more
>> + groups than the pool can cause hardware to re-allocate those counters
>> + between successive reads of an event. Bandwidth values may then be
>> + misleading, or a read may return "Unavailable" if no counter is allocated
>> + to the RMID. There is no user-visible indication when this begins.
>> + Users who need stable readings beyond that pool should switch to mbm_event
>> + mode, if supported, and assign counters to the groups of interest
>> + (rotating assignments as needed).
>
> Above are two AMD architecture specific paragraphs inserted in the middle of generic
> documentation. On top of that, the second paragraph does not have any architecture
> specific "markers" and this could be confused as being generic.
>
> Could this be re-organized to seperate the generic and arch specific documentation?
> This could be done similar to how the io_alloc documentation used "See architecture
> specific notes below." text. The two AMD specific paragraphs can then be linked.
Yes. Looks good. Thanks for the patch.
>
> For example (changes on top of this patch),
> ---8<---
> diff --git a/Documentation/filesystems/resctrl.rst b/Documentation/filesystems/resctrl.rst
> index fc3ced99e3b7..f33c06612a77 100644
> --- a/Documentation/filesystems/resctrl.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/filesystems/resctrl.rst
> @@ -350,7 +350,7 @@ with the following files:
> "mbm_assign_mode":
> The supported counter assignment modes. The enclosed brackets indicate which mode
> is enabled. The MBM events associated with counters may reset when "mbm_assign_mode"
> - is changed.
> + is changed. See architecture specific notes below.
> ::
>
> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_mode
> @@ -383,25 +383,7 @@ with the following files:
> "default":
>
> In default mode, resctrl assumes there is a hardware counter for each
> - event within every CTRL_MON and MON group. This mode is enabled by default.
> -
> - On AMD platforms that support more CTRL_MON and MON groups than hardware
> - counters, hardware dynamically shares a smaller pool of counters among
> - RMIDs. One counter from this pool is used per monitoring group and counts
> - every MBM event of that group's RMID. The size of the pool is not
> - enumerated to software (unlike "num_mbm_cntrs"), and "num_rmids" may be
> - much larger. For example, 64 counters in this pool monitor 64 groups.
> - Newer hardware may provide a larger pool.
> -
> - While the number of monitoring groups does not exceed that pool, a counter
> - stays attached to each RMID and readings remain accurate. Creating more
> - groups than the pool can cause hardware to re-allocate those counters
> - between successive reads of an event. Bandwidth values may then be
> - misleading, or a read may return "Unavailable" if no counter is allocated
> - to the RMID. There is no user-visible indication when this begins.
> - Users who need stable readings beyond that pool should switch to mbm_event
> - mode, if supported, and assign counters to the groups of interest
> - (rotating assignments as needed).
> + event within every CTRL_MON and MON group.
>
> * To enable "mbm_event" counter assignment mode:
> ::
> @@ -413,6 +395,24 @@ with the following files:
>
> # echo "default" > /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_mode
>
> + In default mode on AMD platforms that support more CTRL_MON and MON groups
> + than hardware counters, hardware dynamically shares a smaller pool of
> + counters among RMIDs. One counter from this pool is used per monitoring
> + group and counts every MBM event of that group's RMID. The size of the pool
> + is not enumerated to software (unlike "num_mbm_cntrs"), and "num_rmids" may
> + be much larger. For example, 64 counters in this pool monitor 64 groups.
> + Newer hardware may provide a larger pool.
> +
> + On such platforms, while the number of monitoring groups does not exceed
> + that pool, a counter stays attached to each RMID and readings remain
> + accurate. Creating more groups than the pool can cause hardware to
> + re-allocate those counters between successive reads of an event. Bandwidth
> + values may then be misleading, or a read may return "Unavailable" if no
> + counter is allocated to the RMID. There is no user-visible indication when
> + this begins. Users who need stable readings beyond that pool should switch
> + to mbm_event mode, if supported, and assign counters to the groups of
> + interest (rotating assignments as needed).
> +
> "num_mbm_cntrs":
> The maximum number of counters (total of available and assigned counters) in
> each domain when the system supports mbm_event mode.
> ---8<---
>
>
>
>>
>> * To enable "mbm_event" counter assignment mode:
>> ::
>> @@ -1784,62 +1799,72 @@ View the llc occupancy snapshot::
>> Examples on working with mbm_assign_mode
>> ========================================
>>
>> -a. Check if MBM counter assignment mode is supported.
>> +a. Check if MBM counter assignment mode is supported. The boot mode is "default".
>
> Same comment as earlier, please drop the "The boot mode is "default"." that
> does not apply to MPAM.
Sure.
>
>> ::
>>
>> - # mount -t resctrl resctrl /sys/fs/resctrl/
>
> Since this drops the "mount" command. Should the final "unmount" step be dropped also?
Yes.
>
>> + # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_mode
>> + [default]
>> + mbm_event
>> +
>> +The "default" mode is enabled. "mbm_event" is supported but not enabled.
>>
>> +b. Enable "mbm_event" mode. Switching the mbm_assign_mode may
>> +reset all the MBM counters (and thus all MBM events) of all the resctrl groups.
>> +::
>> +
>> + # echo "mbm_event" > /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_mode
>> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_mode
>> [mbm_event]
>> default
>>
>
> The above changes could be merged together under a single step "a" that
> will significantly reduce the churn when considering this is a stable patch.
Yes. We can. But because of auto assign is not enabled on mode switch,
we still have to touch few steps. Your choice.
>
>> -The "mbm_event" mode is detected and enabled.
>> -
>> -b. Check how many assignable counters are supported.
>> +c. Check how many assignable counters are supported.
>> ::
>>
>> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/num_mbm_cntrs
>> 0=32;1=32
>>
>> -c. Check how many assignable counters are available for assignment in each domain.
>> +d. Check how many assignable counters are available for assignment in each domain.
>> ::
>>
>> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/available_mbm_cntrs
>> - 0=30;1=30
>> + 0=32;1=32
>>
>> -d. To list the default group's assign states.
>> +e. To list the default group's assign states. Counters are not assigned
>> +automatically. They are unassigned when the mode is switched to "mbm_event".
>
> I think "Counters are not assigned automatically." contradict mbm_assign_on_mkdir
> that is forced true on the switch. Can it just be dropped? That would just leave:
>
> e. To list the default group's assign states. Counters are unassigned when the mode is switched to "mbm_event".
Yes. Sure.
>
>> ::
>>
>> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/mbm_L3_assignments
>> - mbm_total_bytes:0=e;1=e
>> - mbm_local_bytes:0=e;1=e
>> + mbm_total_bytes:0=_;1=_
>> + mbm_local_bytes:0=_;1=_
>>
>> -e. To unassign the counter associated with the mbm_total_bytes event on domain 0.
>> +f. To assign the counter associated with the mbm_total_bytes event on domain 0
>> +in exclusive mode.
>> ::
>>
>> - # echo "mbm_total_bytes:0=_" > /sys/fs/resctrl/mbm_L3_assignments
>> + # echo "mbm_total_bytes:0=e" > /sys/fs/resctrl/mbm_L3_assignments
>> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/mbm_L3_assignments
>> - mbm_total_bytes:0=_;1=e
>> - mbm_local_bytes:0=e;1=e
>> + mbm_total_bytes:0=e;1=_
>> + mbm_local_bytes:0=_;1=_
>>
>> -f. To unassign the counter associated with the mbm_total_bytes event on all domains.
>> +g. To unassign the counter associated with the mbm_total_bytes event on all domains.
>> ::
>>
>> # echo "mbm_total_bytes:*=_" > /sys/fs/resctrl/mbm_L3_assignments
>> - # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/mbm_L3_assignment
>> + # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/mbm_L3_assignments
>> mbm_total_bytes:0=_;1=_
>> - mbm_local_bytes:0=e;1=e
>> + mbm_local_bytes:0=_;1=_
>>
>> -g. To assign a counter associated with the mbm_total_bytes event on all domains in
>> -exclusive mode.
>> +h. To assign a counter associated with the mbm_total_bytes and mbm_local_bytes
>> +events on all domains in exclusive mode.
>> ::
>>
>> # echo "mbm_total_bytes:*=e" > /sys/fs/resctrl/mbm_L3_assignments
>> + # echo "mbm_local_bytes:*=e" > /sys/fs/resctrl/mbm_L3_assignments
>> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/mbm_L3_assignments
>> mbm_total_bytes:0=e;1=e
>> mbm_local_bytes:0=e;1=e
>>
>> -h. Read the events mbm_total_bytes and mbm_local_bytes of the default group. There is
>> +i. Read the events mbm_total_bytes and mbm_local_bytes of the default group. There is
>> no change in reading the events with the assignment.
>> ::
>
> Could you please remind me if the first read after assignment returns
> "Unavailable" or a valid count?
As far as I have observed, mbm_event mode (ABMC) returns either 0 when
there is no activity or a valid count. I have not personally encountered
an Unavailable value. However, the specification allows Unavailable to
be returned when the count is not available.
>
>>
>> @@ -1852,7 +1877,7 @@ no change in reading the events with the assignment.
>> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/mon_data/mon_L3_01/mbm_local_bytes
>> 121212144
>>
>> -i. Check the event configurations.
>> +j. Check the event configurations.
>> ::
>>
>> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/event_configs/mbm_total_bytes/event_filter
>> @@ -1862,7 +1887,7 @@ i. Check the event configurations.
>> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/event_configs/mbm_local_bytes/event_filter
>> local_reads,local_non_temporal_writes,local_reads_slow_memory
>>
>> -j. Change the event configuration for mbm_local_bytes.
>> +k. Change the event configuration for mbm_local_bytes.
>> ::
>>
>> # echo "local_reads, local_non_temporal_writes, local_reads_slow_memory, remote_reads" >
>> @@ -1871,7 +1896,7 @@ j. Change the event configuration for mbm_local_bytes.
>> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/event_configs/mbm_local_bytes/event_filter
>> local_reads,local_non_temporal_writes,local_reads_slow_memory,remote_reads
>>
>> -k. Now read the local events again. The first read may come back with "Unavailable"
>> +l. Now read the local events again. The first read may come back with "Unavailable"
>> status. The subsequent read of mbm_local_bytes will display the current value.
>> ::
>>
>> @@ -1884,17 +1909,17 @@ status. The subsequent read of mbm_local_bytes will display the current value.
>> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/mon_data/mon_L3_01/mbm_local_bytes
>> 1566565
>>
>> -l. Users have the option to go back to 'default' mbm_assign_mode if required. This can be
>> +m. Users have the option to go back to 'default' mbm_assign_mode if required. This can be
>> done using the following command. Note that switching the mbm_assign_mode may reset all
>> the MBM counters (and thus all MBM events) of all the resctrl groups.
>> ::
>>
>> # echo "default" > /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_mode
>> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_mode
>> - mbm_event
>> [default]
>> + mbm_event
>>
>> -m. Unmount the resctrl filesystem.
>> +n. Unmount the resctrl filesystem.
>> ::
>>
>
> As mentioned earlier this is now asymmetric after dropping the "mount" in the first step.
> Should this unmount step be dropped now?
Sure.
Thanks
Babu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-27 14:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-21 23:58 [PATCH v5 0/2] x86,fs/resctrl: Keep default MBM mode at boot and fix ABMC programming Babu Moger
2026-10-21 23:58 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] x86/resctrl: Fix ABMC counter programming Babu Moger
2026-10-21 23:58 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] x86,fs/resctrl: Keep mbm_assign_mode in default mode at boot Babu Moger
2026-10-27 0:15 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-27 14:48 ` Babu Moger [this message]
2026-10-27 16:36 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-27 19:12 ` Babu Moger
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