From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932234AbWFMUpp (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:45:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932240AbWFMUpp (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:45:45 -0400 Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com ([64.233.162.196]:39792 "EHLO nz-out-0102.google.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932234AbWFMUpo (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:45:44 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Yp4dp1UvFilZCmcDjk/rt1p3EO3YiNQlBAM+aw9DZeAbIgUiedgZiF2W6qTl8czXWDcvZnWyiISt1WkiCQ+85jsLS1O0yDnM19hzxl4ihP5qtelPZe5IzH8/flM42+oQPq2zW4haLSjBDWF+TgNdZgiAmd2mfKJ/O+WFHBw+wqk= Message-ID: <986ed62e0606131345w7bdad0aap53e2edc5fea0f68f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 13:45:43 -0700 From: "Barry K. Nathan" To: "John Heffner" Subject: Re: 2.6.17: networking bug?? Cc: "Linus Torvalds" , "Mark Lord" , "Linux Kernel" , netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net In-Reply-To: <448F03B3.5040501@psc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <448EC6F3.3060002@rtr.ca> <448ECB09.3010308@rtr.ca> <448ED2FC.2040704@rtr.ca> <448ED9B3.8050506@rtr.ca> <448EEE9D.10105@rtr.ca> <448EF45B.2080601@rtr.ca> <448EF85E.50405@psc.edu> <448F03B3.5040501@psc.edu> X-Google-Sender-Auth: c503dc38fe47c7cd Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 6/13/06, John Heffner wrote: > Though I haven't gotten my hands on it, I believe Windows will soon have > this capability, too. I'm sure Windows is big enough that whenever they > turn this on, it will flush out all these boxes pretty quickly. We > could wait for them to do it first, that that's not my favored approach. Yes, that appears to be the case with Windows Vista: http://blogs.msdn.com/wndp/archive/2006/05/05/Winhec_blog_tcpip_2.aspx *However*, they're also adding "black hole detection", for working around broken boxes that drop ICMP. And that kinda makes me wonder how long they're going to stick to their guns for enabling window scaling. (For instance, if too many sites break, maybe they'll disable it again with Vista Service Pack 1 or something.) -- -Barry K. Nathan