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From: joe Shmoe <jsmoe3@yahoo.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kernel page table mapping for >1GB <3 GB for x86 arch without PAE
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:07:01 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <989804.72681.qm@web45215.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090828205337.3677cf04@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

doesn't CR3 gets reloaded for process switch? If so , how does it matter if you setup page table mapping for all the available RAM instead of limiting to just 1GB

--- On Fri, 8/28/09, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:

> From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: kernel page table mapping for >1GB <3 GB for x86 arch without PAE
> To: "joe Shmoe" <jsmoe3@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 3:53 PM
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:44:25 -0700
> (PDT)
> joe Shmoe <jsmoe3@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > No I am not talking about embedded systems. It is just
> an example.
> > My question is what is preventing the kernel from
> setting up the page tables so that entire RAM can be mapped
> upto 4 GB.
> 
> The design of the x86 processor
> 
> You only have 4GB of virtual address space at any one time
> so you have to
> fit the following within your 4GB virtual space
> 
> - Virtual addresses of the user space
> - Mappings for physical memory
> - Kernel virtual spaces (vmalloc etc)
> - Various miscellaneous kernel mappings
> - I/O MMIO space
> 
> Now you could in theory switch the page tables on kernel
> entry to get a
> very big user space mapping and then instead of relying on
> the user space
> being mapped you could map specific user pages or access
> them via their
> physical address lookup.
> 
> That however means reloading %cr3 (page table base) which
> is very
> expensive, and some very hard to implement locking on user
> space access.
> 
> Some other processor families have the notion of "spaces"
> or MMU
> bypassing. The Sparc64 for example can access MMIO space
> without an MMU
> mapping or virtual address being needed for it. x86 does
> not - it has
> segments but the segments map into the 4GB space so they
> don't help here
> hence the current implementation and 3G/1G split.
> 


      

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-28 21:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-28 18:08 joe Shmoe
2009-08-28 18:12 ` Roland Dreier
2009-08-28 18:40   ` joe Shmoe
2009-08-28 19:13     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-08-28 19:44       ` joe Shmoe
2009-08-28 19:53         ` Alan Cox
2009-08-28 20:23           ` joe Shmoe
2009-08-28 22:16             ` Alan Cox
2009-08-29  0:20               ` joe Shmoe
2009-08-29 13:05                 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-29 14:40               ` joe Shmoe
2009-08-28 21:07           ` joe Shmoe [this message]
2009-08-28 22:11             ` Alan Cox
2009-08-28 19:49     ` Roland Dreier

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