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From: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	peterz@infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de, jstultz@google.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] softirq: uncontroversial change
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 22:23:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98b96b354ef9e0b7cafb951b12988aee727807a3.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANn89iKQ2KR23Ln9FU5RCKH89KWCNcu9QWuVLB4CcEqgoH+iRQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2023-04-20 at 19:41 +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 7:24 PM Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com> wrote:
> > I would like to propose a revert of:
> > 
> > 4cd13c21b207 softirq: Let ksoftirqd do its job
> > 
> > the its follow-ups:
> > 
> > 3c53776e29f8 Mark HI and TASKLET softirq synchronous
> > 0f50524789fc softirq: Don't skip softirq execution when softirq thread is parking
> > 
> > The problem originally addressed by 4cd13c21b207 can now be tackled
> > with the threaded napi, available since:
> > 
> > 29863d41bb6e net: implement threaded-able napi poll loop support
> > 
> > Reverting the mentioned commit should address the latency issues
> > mentioned by Jakub - I verified it solves a somewhat related problem in
> > my setup - and reduces the layering of heuristics in this area.
> > 
> > A refactor introducing uniform overload detection and proper resource
> > control will be better, but I admit it's beyond me and anyway it could
> > still land afterwards.
> > 
> > Any opinion more then welcome!
> 
> Seems fine, but I think few things need to be fixed first in
> napi_threaded_poll()
> to enable some important features that are currently  in net_rx_action() only.

Thanks for the feedback.

I fear I'll miss some relevant bits. 

On top of my head I think about RPS and  skb_defer_free. Both should
work even when napi threaded is enabled - with an additional softirq ;)
Do you think we should be able to handle both inside the napi thread?
Or do you refer to other features?

Thanks!

Paolo


  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-20 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-22 22:12 Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-22 22:12 ` [PATCH 1/3] softirq: rename ksoftirqd_running() -> ksoftirqd_should_handle() Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-22 22:12 ` [PATCH 2/3] softirq: avoid spurious stalls due to need_resched() Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-31 22:32   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-03 13:30   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-03-03 15:18     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-03-03 21:31     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-03 22:37       ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-03 23:25         ` Dave Taht
2023-03-04  1:14           ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-03 23:36         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-03 23:44           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-04  1:25             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-04  1:39               ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-04  3:11                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-04 20:48                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-05 20:43       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-03-05 22:42         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-05 23:00           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-03-06  4:30             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-06 11:22               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-03-06  9:13         ` David Laight
2023-03-06 11:57         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-03-06 14:57           ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-07  0:51         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-22 22:12 ` [PATCH 3/3] softirq: don't yield if only expedited handlers are pending Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-09  9:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-01-09 10:16     ` Eric Dumazet
2023-01-09 19:12       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-03 11:41     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-03-03 14:17   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-20 17:24 ` [PATCH 0/3] softirq: uncontroversial change Paolo Abeni
2023-04-20 17:41   ` Eric Dumazet
2023-04-20 20:23     ` Paolo Abeni [this message]
2023-04-21  2:48   ` Jason Xing
2023-04-21  9:33     ` Paolo Abeni
2023-04-21  9:46       ` Jason Xing
2023-05-09 19:56   ` [tip: irq/core] Revert "softirq: Let ksoftirqd do its job" tip-bot2 for Paolo Abeni

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