From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/9] virtio_pci: harden MSI-X interrupts
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 10:20:19 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <98ddcf92-b0c8-77c3-d1ca-9855896a2600@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sfy8ds53.ffs@tglx>
在 2021/9/14 上午6:31, Thomas Gleixner 写道:
> On Mon, Sep 13 2021 at 16:54, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 09:38:30PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 13 2021 at 15:07, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 2:50 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>> But doen't "irq is disabled" basically mean "we told the hypervisor
>>>>>> to disable the irq"? What extractly prevents hypervisor from
>>>>>> sending the irq even if guest thinks it disabled it?
>>>>> More generally, can't we for example blow away the
>>>>> indir_desc array that we use to keep the ctx pointers?
>>>>> Won't that be enough?
>>>> I'm not sure how it is related to the indirect descriptor but an
>>>> example is that all the current driver will assume:
>>>>
>>>> 1) the interrupt won't be raised before virtio_device_ready()
>>>> 2) the interrupt won't be raised after reset()
>>> If that assumption exists, then you better keep the interrupt line
>>> disabled until virtio_device_ready() has completed
>> started not completed. device is allowed to send
>> config interrupts right after DRIVER_OK status is set by
>> virtio_device_ready.
> Whatever:
>
> * Define the exact point from which on the driver is able to handle the
> interrupt and put the enable after that point
>
> * Define the exact point from which on the driver is unable to handle
> the interrupt and put the disable before that point
Yes, this is exactly what this patch (and INTX patch) want to achieve.
The driver should only able to handle the interrupt after
virtio_device_ready() but before reset().
Thanks
>
> The above is blury.
>
>>> and disable it again
>>> before reset() is invoked. That's a question of general robustness and
>>> not really a question of trusted hypervisors and encrypted guests.
>> We can do this for some MSIX interrupts, sure. Not for shared interrupts though.
> See my reply to the next patch. The problem is the same:
>
> * Define the exact point from which on the driver is able to handle the
> interrupt and allow the handler to proceed after that point
>
> * Define the exact point from which on the driver is unable to handle
> the interrupt and ensure that the handler denies to proceed before
> that point
>
> Same story just a different mechanism.
>
> Thanks,
>
> tglx
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-14 2:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-09-13 5:53 [PATCH 0/9] More virtio hardening Jason Wang
2021-09-13 5:53 ` [PATCH 1/9] virtio-blk: validate num_queues during probe Jason Wang
2021-09-13 7:48 ` Stefano Garzarella
2021-09-14 2:29 ` Jason Wang
2021-09-13 12:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-09-13 5:53 ` [PATCH 2/9] virtio: add doc for validate() method Jason Wang
2021-09-13 5:53 ` [PATCH 3/9] virtio-console: switch to use .validate() Jason Wang
2021-09-13 5:53 ` [PATCH 4/9] virtio_console: validate max_nr_ports before trying to use it Jason Wang
2021-09-13 5:53 ` [PATCH 5/9] virtio_config: introduce a new ready method Jason Wang
2021-09-13 5:53 ` [PATCH 6/9] virtio_pci: harden MSI-X interrupts Jason Wang
2021-09-13 6:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-13 6:08 ` Jason Wang
2021-09-13 6:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-13 6:34 ` Jason Wang
2021-09-13 6:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-13 6:43 ` Jason Wang
2021-09-13 7:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-13 7:15 ` Jason Wang
2021-09-13 6:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-13 7:07 ` Jason Wang
2021-09-13 19:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-13 20:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-13 22:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-14 2:20 ` Jason Wang [this message]
2021-09-14 8:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-13 5:53 ` [PATCH 7/9] virtio-pci: harden INTX interrupts Jason Wang
2021-09-13 6:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-13 6:36 ` Jason Wang
2021-09-13 6:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-13 6:45 ` Jason Wang
2021-09-13 7:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-13 7:17 ` Jason Wang
2021-09-13 21:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-13 22:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-13 22:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-14 2:50 ` Jason Wang
2021-09-14 9:34 ` Boqun Feng
2021-09-14 11:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-14 11:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-13 5:53 ` [PATCH 8/9] virtio_ring: fix typos in vring_desc_extra Jason Wang
2021-09-13 5:53 ` [PATCH 9/9] virtio_ring: validate used buffer length Jason Wang
2021-09-13 6:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-13 6:40 ` Jason Wang
2021-09-13 6:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-13 7:13 ` Jason Wang
2021-10-05 7:42 ` [PATCH 0/9] More virtio hardening Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-11 7:36 ` Jason Wang
2021-10-11 12:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12 2:43 ` Jason Wang
2021-10-12 5:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12 6:11 ` Jason Wang
2021-10-12 6:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12 6:43 ` Jason Wang
2021-10-12 7:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12 8:46 ` Jason Wang
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