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From: "SkyLake Huang (黃啟澤)" <SkyLake.Huang@mediatek.com>
To: "linux@armlinux.org.uk" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"andrew@lunn.ch" <andrew@lunn.ch>
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	"daniel@makrotopia.org" <daniel@makrotopia.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 5/5] net: phy: add driver for built-in 2.5G ethernet PHY on MT7988
Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 09:36:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <996df1ab7b4f3a0feeac972f6a87baa591750801.camel@mediatek.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZkuM9C0Yd/uwwzUA@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Mon, 2024-05-20 at 18:48 +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
>  	 
> External email : Please do not click links or open attachments until
> you have verified the sender or the content.
>  On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 03:02:21PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > > Actually this phy is strictly binded to (XFI)MAC on this
> platform.
> > > So I directly disable HDX feature of PHY.
> > 
> > Sorry, i don't follow your answer:
> > 
> > Can the PHY do half duplex?
> > Can the MAC do half duplex?

Sorry about ambiguity.
- Can the PHY do half duplex?
The short answer is no. I clarify the comments like below so everyone
should know this phy's capability

/* This phy can't handle collision, and neither can (XFI)MAC it's
connected to.
 * Although it can do HDX handshake, it doesn't support CSMA/CD that
HDX requires.
 */
linkmode_clear_bit(ETHTOOL_LINK_MODE_100baseT_Half_BIT, phydev-
>supported);

- Can the MAC do half duplex?
No.
Daniel has explained MT7988 SoC's network interfaces in v1 patch:
https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/Zjumd3bnZDu9LYGH@makrotopia.org/

- GMAC0 is typically connected as conduit to a 4-port MT7530-like DSA
  switch offering 4 1GE user ports. PHY driver mediatek-ge-soc.c takes
  care of those, and yes, they do need some "care"...

- GMAC1 can be used with the internal 2.5GE PHY (ie. with the driver
  discussed here) OR for to connect an external PHY or SFP via
  1000Base-X, 2500Base-X, SGMII, 5GBase-R, 10GBase-R or USXGMII.

- GMAC2 is can only be used with an external PHY or SFP using
  1000Base-X, 2500Base-X, SGMII, 5GBase-R, 10GBa

Actually, internal 2.5GbE PHY is connected to XFIMAC via XMGII.
According to IEEE std 802.3-2018 section 46.1(page.188). XGMII provides
for full duplex operation only.

> > 
> > The part which cannot do half-duplex should be the part which
> disables
> > half-duplex.
> 
> Note that if the PHY is doing rate adaption (preferably in a form
> that
> it can control the MAC transmission rate), then even if the MAC can't
> do half-duplex, the PHY can still do half-duplex.
> 
> -- 
> RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
> FTTP is here! 80Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!

Yes, this phy is doing rate adaption. But just like what I said above,
its rate adaption module can't support CSMA/CD.

Sky

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-21  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-17 10:29 [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] net: phy: mediatek: Introduce mtk-phy-lib and add 2.5Gphy support Sky Huang
2024-05-17 10:29 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/5] net: phy: mediatek: Re-organize MediaTek ethernet phy drivers Sky Huang
2024-05-18 18:19   ` kernel test robot
2024-05-18 19:02   ` kernel test robot
2024-05-17 10:29 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/5] net: phy: mediatek: Move LED and read/write page helper functions into mtk phy lib Sky Huang
2024-05-18 21:30   ` kernel test robot
2024-05-17 10:29 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/5] net: phy: mediatek: Add token ring access helper functions in mtk-phy-lib Sky Huang
2024-05-17 10:29 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/5] net: phy: mediatek: Extend 1G TX/RX link pulse time Sky Huang
2024-05-17 23:43   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-20 11:43     ` SkyLake Huang (黃啟澤)
2024-05-17 10:29 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/5] net: phy: add driver for built-in 2.5G ethernet PHY on MT7988 Sky Huang
2024-05-18  1:29   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-20 11:49     ` SkyLake Huang (黃啟澤)
2024-05-20 13:02       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-20 17:48         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-05-21  9:36           ` SkyLake Huang (黃啟澤) [this message]
2024-05-17 19:10 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] net: phy: mediatek: Introduce mtk-phy-lib and add 2.5Gphy support Jakub Kicinski
2024-05-20 11:53   ` SkyLake Huang (黃啟澤)

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